| Author |
Message |
|
vez
|
Post subject: Carring a weapon while recovering a fugitive  Posted: Sun 28 Dec 2014 15:29 |
|
Joined: Sat 09 Oct 2010 18:18
Posts: 14
Location: Columbus ,Ohio
FRN Agency ID #: 0
Experience: None
|
|
I'm curious if a BH would fall under the CCW laws or are their different laws that allow a Bail Agent to carry a weapon? Thank You!
|
|
  |
|
|
|
 |
|
tsuggs
|
Post subject: Re: Carring a weapon while recovering a fugitive Posted: Sun 28 Dec 2014 17:43 |
|
Joined: Thu 09 Mar 2006 14:51
Posts: 3344
FRN Agency ID #: 3904
Experience: More than 10 years
|
|
That's easy. Does your state issue weapons permits for bondsmen? Does your state put restrictions of CCW permits?
Also, not all bail agents are bounty hunters or vice versa. So they may be treated differently.
Didn't we go through this about 4 years ago?
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
NYPD BLUE
|
Post subject: Re: Carring a weapon while recovering a fugitive Posted: Mon 29 Dec 2014 08:43 |
|
Joined: Thu 16 Dec 2010 10:07
Posts: 1033
Location: Miami, FL
FRN Agency ID #: 3828
Experience: More than 10 years
|
|
In Florida .. There are NO BOUNTY HUNTERS ..it is a Felony 3rd Degree to be a Bounty Hunter in FL.
In Florida .. Surety Agents / Bail Bondsman .. Fall under their CCW although the STATE OF FL doesnt say You Can or Can Not Carry.. or in FLORIDA I would be safer with my FL Private Investigators "C" License along with FL State "G" License ..if things went south .. I would say to be best covered you should have your "C" & "G" in Florida only because you are "Investigating / Skip Tracing ..working as an investigator tracking down leads to your subject.." but this is only my opinion.
_________________
JEFF P.
Limited Surety Agent (FL) - License # P_2O8124_
Private Investigator (FL) - License # C_27OOO33_
NABBI Member
"Surprise Sex is the Best Thing to Wake up to, UNLESS, You are in Jail... "
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
KARMA
|
Post subject: Re: Carring a weapon while recovering a fugitive Posted: Mon 29 Dec 2014 10:58 |
|
Joined: Mon 14 Feb 2005 10:59
Posts: 7563
Location: Arkansas
FRN Agency ID #: 340
Experience: More than 10 years
|
I have a CHGL in order to carry at all times, however when "on the job" (doing a recovery) I can open carry as I am considered an "extension of Law Enforcement" per an Attorney General Opinion issued in 1987 by the Honorable  Bill Clinton ACT 746 which became 'law' in 2013 clarified carry of a weapon . . . Many assume that it means 'open carry' but that is yet to be 'clarified' by an Attorney General Opinion . . . which has been sent twice to Dustin and he has waffled. Hopefully our new AG with step up to the plate and clarify . . . right now LE is pulled . . . it does mean that if one can carry legally (not a felon, or convicted of DB) then one has the Constitutional Right to carry. Does not clarify "open" carry . . . which many are wanting to believe that it does. The Legislator that proposed the Bill did not go that far . . . only went as far as "Constitutional Carry". I would look at the Laws that pertain to carry of weapon in the State in which you reside and work . . . . and should you be traveling to another State, I would check their Laws before even going there . . . Best not to be a "Test Case"
_________________
Do not consider anything for your interest which makes you break your word, quit your modesty, or inclines you to any practice which will not bear the light, or look the world in the face .... Marcus Antonius
I AM Some Folks "KARMA" and A MODERATOR @ FRN
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
tsuggs
|
Post subject: Re: Carring a weapon while recovering a fugitive Posted: Mon 29 Dec 2014 14:47 |
|
Joined: Thu 09 Mar 2006 14:51
Posts: 3344
FRN Agency ID #: 3904
Experience: More than 10 years
|
|
So, it appears that Vez asked a similar question 4 years ago under "Showing thier gun." There were 10 pages of responses.
Not sure why he wants to go over it all again.
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
speezack
|
Post subject: Re: Carring a weapon while recovering a fugitive Posted: Mon 29 Dec 2014 17:40 |
|
 |
| in memoriam |
 |
Joined: Fri 02 Mar 2007 10:51
Posts: 5055
Location: South Central Virginia
FRN Agency ID #: 1474
Experience: More than 10 years
|
Quote: I would look at the Laws that pertain to carry of weapon in the State in which you reside and work . . . . and should you be traveling to another State, I would check their Laws before even going there . . . Best not to be a "Test Case" There ya go.......... bottom line, full answer.... end of discussion, nothing further needed... Now... of course,.... if you want me to ... I can write 3 or 4 pages of BS... related to this topic... but alas... not needed...  ... besides, I'm tired and cold... sat in the rain today.... hunting... saw nothing... but... related to this topic... I was carrying a .45 Taurus sidearm... open... uh... I do have a license... ... I think...   ... uh... I think I renewed it.... uh..... probably...  
_________________
Bill Marx, Sr.
"FREE STATE BAIL BONDS"
"FREE STATE INVESTIGATIONS"
DCJS: 99-176979
Cell: 434-294-0222
"Endeavor to Persevere" "Lone Watie"
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that , comes from bad judgment" "Will Rogers"
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
tsuggs
|
Post subject: Re: Carring a weapon while recovering a fugitive Posted: Mon 29 Dec 2014 18:51 |
|
Joined: Thu 09 Mar 2006 14:51
Posts: 3344
FRN Agency ID #: 3904
Experience: More than 10 years
|
Bill, What season is it now? You just bagged a bear and I thought you already went through deer season. Is it Wild Turkey season now? If so, I have a bottle of Wild Turkey in the cupboard. 
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
KARMA
|
Post subject: Re: Carring a weapon while recovering a fugitive Posted: Mon 29 Dec 2014 22:47 |
|
Joined: Mon 14 Feb 2005 10:59
Posts: 7563
Location: Arkansas
FRN Agency ID #: 340
Experience: More than 10 years
|
tsuggs wrote: So, it appears that Vez asked a similar question 4 years ago under "Showing thier gun." There were 10 pages of responses.
Not sure why he wants to go over it all again. After I signed off today and headed out I pondered on this one . . . I thought that it was Vez that asked the same question before . . . maybe he furgot 
_________________
Do not consider anything for your interest which makes you break your word, quit your modesty, or inclines you to any practice which will not bear the light, or look the world in the face .... Marcus Antonius
I AM Some Folks "KARMA" and A MODERATOR @ FRN
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
ncbondsman13
|
Post subject: Re: Carring a weapon while recovering a fugitive Posted: Tue 06 Jan 2015 06:37 |
|
|
| Moderate Poster |
 |
Joined: Mon 16 Sep 2013 07:43
Posts: 158
Location: Johnston County, NC
FRN Agency ID #: 4640
Experience: < 3 years
|
That's Funny!!!  tsuggs wrote: Bill, What season is it now? You just bagged a bear and I thought you already went through deer season. Is it Wild Turkey season now? If so, I have a bottle of Wild Turkey in the cupboard.
_________________
Robert J Brown
Bail Bondsman
NPN: 17113240
Holmes Bail Bonding
Johnston County, NC
(919) 376.6661
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
speezack
|
Post subject: Re: Carring a weapon while recovering a fugitive Posted: Tue 06 Jan 2015 20:48 |
|
|
| in memoriam |
|
Joined: Fri 02 Mar 2007 10:51
Posts: 5055
Location: South Central Virginia
FRN Agency ID #: 1474
Experience: More than 10 years
|
|
Hunting season is now officially closed.... at least as far as I am concerned... animals that is... at least the ones on 4 legs... furry, horns, claws, teeth... I guess the other animals you guys hunt is always open season...
Anyway, stay safe and as for this thread... if you carry, do it legally in the state you are in.... really a "no brainer." I'm not even sure why anyone would question the legalities of carrying a weapon... got to be licensed and legal... and that about sums it up.
BTW... and this is my opinion as always.... I wouldn't carry open anywhere, legal or not... I do carry open during hunting season... at least a .45 or even a .44mag.... when I am in the woods but on the street or in public.... no way am I gonna strap a 'piece' on my side... I ain't a cowboy (even though I was born in Texas)... I do carry but you won't see it.
Open in public is not for me........... ever.
_________________
Bill Marx, Sr.
"FREE STATE BAIL BONDS"
"FREE STATE INVESTIGATIONS"
DCJS: 99-176979
Cell: 434-294-0222
"Endeavor to Persevere" "Lone Watie"
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that , comes from bad judgment" "Will Rogers"
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
