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rab2344
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Post subject: Spit Shields? Posted: Wed 07 Dec 2011 15:24 |
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Joined: Wed 03 Mar 2010 16:31 Posts: 86 Location: Reston, VA
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I won't get into details, but I was wondering the following:
Legality of using spit shields on skips when transporting?
If not going to use, how would YOU handle a skip who spits and attempts to force vomit?
Just curious....
_________________ Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
VA DCJS #99-99238446
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NYPD BLUE
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Post subject: Re: Spit Shields? Posted: Wed 07 Dec 2011 15:52 |
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Joined: Thu 16 Dec 2010 10:07 Posts: 1033 Location: Miami, FL
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I had a guy spiting on us... I ripped off his shirt and wrapped it around his head.. during the transport he started to kick out the side window.. he met the X-26 TASER (DRY STUN) ... then when we arrived at the jail we walked him all the way into the jail with his head still wrapped in his shirt.. I would love to carry spit hoods in the future.. but good thing we used his shirt .. cause he missed kicking out the window by inches cause he could not see..
_________________ JEFF P. Limited Surety Agent (FL) - License # P_2O8124_ Private Investigator (FL) - License # C_27OOO33_ NABBI Member
"Surprise Sex is the Best Thing to Wake up to, UNLESS, You are in Jail... "
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SpanielPI
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Post subject: Re: Spit Shields? Posted: Wed 07 Dec 2011 16:00 |
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Joined: Thu 16 Jun 2005 16:04 Posts: 4598 Location: NE Alabama
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Duct tape, pillow cases, construction dust masks (buy in bulk at any major construction retailer...cheap, disposable), etc. all work wonders.
As for kicking, what leg shackles are for. I run 1 set from the handcuffs to the center of the leg shackles. Pretty much solves that problem.
_________________ River City Associates Decatur, Al. 35601
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Mdbtyhtr
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Post subject: Re: Spit Shields? Posted: Wed 07 Dec 2011 17:48 |
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Joined: Thu 06 Jul 2006 14:22 Posts: 3982 Location: Maryland and Virginia
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pillow case I stole from my wife (don't tell her Bill) and an old long sleeve shirt in case of oozing infected drug addicts with needle sores.
Scott
_________________ R.E. "Scott" MacLean III
"Leaders are like Eagles, you never see them in a flock, but one at a time"
Chesapeake Group Investigations, Inc. Chesapeake Bail Bonds 877-574-0500 301-392-1100 (fax) 301-392-1900 (Office)
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flymedia
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Post subject: Re: Spit Shields? Posted: Thu 08 Dec 2011 04:55 |
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Joined: Thu 18 Nov 2010 21:11 Posts: 88 Location: East Kern Bail Bonds-Ridgecrest, CA Kern County (760) 375-5706
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An old laundry bag/net with a drawstring works pretty good. First started out with a pillowcase thought, but the bag allows them to get fresh air, plus its bright red to identify------in the off chance they escape custody.
_________________ East Kern Bail Bonds Ridgecrest, CA (760) 375-5706 ph (760) 375-5830 fax "The world has changed! The strong no longer survive, but the smart. Victory goes to the one that combines his brains with his heart."
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Mdbtyhtr
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Post subject: Re: Spit Shields? Posted: Thu 08 Dec 2011 06:03 |
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Joined: Thu 06 Jul 2006 14:22 Posts: 3982 Location: Maryland and Virginia
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Flymedia: Around here, it would be worse for them to escape and run with a white hood on their head, they wouldn't last 2 feet and would be begging to let them back n the truck!
Rich: Care to expand? Seems like you had a fun one! How did you handle it? As to the legality question, you would meet the same standard of care and custody that law enforcement would do when transporting a prisoner.
Scott
_________________ R.E. "Scott" MacLean III
"Leaders are like Eagles, you never see them in a flock, but one at a time"
Chesapeake Group Investigations, Inc. Chesapeake Bail Bonds 877-574-0500 301-392-1100 (fax) 301-392-1900 (Office)
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speezack
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Post subject: Re: Spit Shields? Posted: Thu 08 Dec 2011 06:51 |
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Joined: Fri 02 Mar 2007 10:51 Posts: 5055 Location: South Central Virginia
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_________________ Bill Marx, Sr. "FREE STATE BAIL BONDS" "FREE STATE INVESTIGATIONS" DCJS: 99-176979 Cell: 434-294-0222
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"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that , comes from bad judgment" "Will Rogers"
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speezack
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Post subject: Re: Spit Shields? Posted: Thu 08 Dec 2011 06:57 |
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Joined: Fri 02 Mar 2007 10:51 Posts: 5055 Location: South Central Virginia
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Mdbtyhtr wrote: pillow case I stole from my wife (don't tell her Bill) and an old long sleeve shirt in case of oozing infected drug addicts with needle sores.Scott Was that the one you put on that girl we picked up in DC????? The frilly one with all the flowers on it.... I wondered where that came from... oh... or was it the one you had on that homeless guy you got for me in... again DC... the one I had to ride all the way to the jail with the windows open in January.... cause he peed in my car!!!
_________________ Bill Marx, Sr. "FREE STATE BAIL BONDS" "FREE STATE INVESTIGATIONS" DCJS: 99-176979 Cell: 434-294-0222
"Endeavor to Persevere" "Lone Watie"
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that , comes from bad judgment" "Will Rogers"
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aequitasservices
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Post subject: Re: Spit Shields? Posted: Thu 08 Dec 2011 08:05 |
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Joined: Wed 30 Jul 2008 19:21 Posts: 144 Location: Pa, De, Md
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I had one guy who ended up with a bloody lip after a short wrestling match while he was getting cuffed, He spit all over the back seat of my explorer. I just pulled his T-shirt over his head (Hockey Fight Style) and he rode the next six hours that way back to Wilmington, DE. Since then I have carried dust masks, a suggestion by the De State Police , they also advised me not to use a pillow case or duct tape.
_________________ Luke Farrell
AE Bail Bonds Aequitas Services LLC. "Your Bail Recovery Solution" 1-888-610-AEBB Pa: 610-624-1706 De: 302-476-2301 Fax:1-866-633-2321 De. BEA Badge#093 Pa. Bail Bondsman License#: 588438
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docmike
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Post subject: Re: Spit Shields? Posted: Thu 08 Dec 2011 20:14 |
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Joined: Sun 26 Nov 2006 04:28 Posts: 679 Location: San Jose
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Bill How exactly did you get a picture of what Laura did to me last week after I ate her last peice of chocolate?
_________________ Mike Norcal Bail Enforcement San Jose Ca. 360 237 1721 efax 408 402 2710 work cell DOI Bail Agent Lic 1844214 BSIS G1533544
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