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 Post subject: Re: My Favorite BH
 Post Posted: Thu 28 Jul 2011 17:46 
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I guess the sheriff was correct in his statements about the perp not being properly de contaminated.

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The way he acts reminds me of judge Judy or doctor Phil except he seems more likely to cause a large scale incident than either of those 2. This also leaves me with a question, who is responsible for the bill for an ambulance that is called because the skip gets hurt?

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 Post subject: Re: My Favorite BH
 Post Posted: Thu 28 Jul 2011 20:37 
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In certain parts of CA, the patient is billed. If they do not have insurance then the EMTs can bill the person causing the injury, you!

If was LE, they usually are not billed, except maybe to the county.

So it depends.


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So than this is probably going to be state specific as even possibly county specific as to what procedure is followed as to who is charged? Or just a crap shoot.

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 Post Posted: Mon 01 Aug 2011 05:47 
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You can also stop at a local fire department and have the defendant sign a medical release refusing service. Keep a copy for yourself documenting the attempt to provide proper medical care and provide a copy to the jail as well to allow them to receive the defendant. No excuse for not decontaminating, just irresponsible behavior, somehow related to carrying fire extinguishers of mace strapped to your legs I guess.

I have had jails attempt to refuse to accept defendants because they limped, even though the defendant told them it was an old basketball injury and that he has limped for years! Some agencies are dealing with such low morale that their people refuse to do their jobs. One particular agency, currently under federal investigation (it seems that inmates can break their own neck all by themselves while under supervision) and I won't mention any names, but their initials are Prince George's County Maryland, will tell defendants that are attempting to self surrender, go away, we are busy, or come back tomorrow, or just make you wait for hours or until the next shift change. This can really have a negative affect on your efficiency!

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You know i always joke that growing up i thought that the world ran on logic, than i became an adult and found out otherwise.

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You can also stop at a local fire department and have the defendant sign a medical release refusing service. Keep a copy for yourself documenting the attempt to provide proper medical care and provide a copy to the jail as well to allow them to receive the defendant. No excuse for not decontaminating, just irresponsible behavior, somehow related to carrying fire extinguishers of mace strapped to your legs I guess.

I have had jails attempt to refuse to accept defendants because they limped, even though the defendant told them it was an old basketball injury and that he has limped for years! Some agencies are dealing with such low morale that their people refuse to do their jobs. One particular agency, currently under federal investigation (it seems that inmates can break their own neck all by themselves while under supervision) and I won't mention any names, but their initials are Prince George's County Maryland, will tell defendants that are attempting to self surrender, go away, we are busy, or come back tomorrow, or just make you wait for hours or until the next shift change. This can really have a negative affect on your efficiency!

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Well he did kill a Police Officer, maybe he just did not want to face the court and decided to save the state money.... :wink:

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The "fire extinguisher of mace" has been mention in relation to the decontamination.

I sometimes carry an MK9 Sabre OC Fogger when going into certain neighborhoods. However, I also carry a standard duty size canister of OC/CS that fires in a stream. The fogger is a "just in case" for when being hassled by multiple individuals. Great visual aid, looks a bit more intimidating to a group of young adult wannabes than a duty size canister. and has a longer effective range.

Chapman and his crew often carry high volume streamers and from the bits and pieces of the show that I have seen, the HVS units are sometimes used in situations where a duty size canister would work just as well. And an HVS unit will ALWAYS contaminate more than duty size canister at close range. No excuse for overkill, especially when you work with a team.

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 Post subject: Re: My Favorite BH
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One thing about Mr. Chapman and his T.V. show is that many people know about bounty hunters / BEA's. More than one cosigner and / or defendant has asked me if "Dog" or someone like him will hunt them down if they don't appear. I tell them that they will be hunted down and I will not bond them out again if they FTA on me.

As for the large canister of mace/OC .. I was with a BEA agent not that long ago and when we walked into an apartment building corridor one man saw the canister and threw himself against the wall, he was very relieved when we walked on by.

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And to think after this weekend, I was your new favorite recovery agent Tony.. :D

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