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It's always something for us out here in the Rocky's. Any other news about who the BEA was, or if he's been charged?

I happen to know about the bondsman that sent the $100 personally. He's definitely up a creek.

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Gentleman,

Not to be a rat here, but for your info, the FRA that is involved here is listed on this site. Furthermore the bond agent in this case bonded him out after this incident. This particular bond agent continues to utilize unprofessional individuals to do her pick ups and its very frustrating to the rest of us here in Denver. I will send this as a warning to all.... when you do business with LaDonna's Bail Bonds, be careful. There may be at least 2 other FRA's working the case also.

Just a heads up !

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First of all it is best to know the story before you say anything at all about the situation what if its you in the same situation and everyone has something to say about it but they are not there and i am a highly trained individual secondly ladonna mullins is a great person to work for dont get hurt cause she would not hire you all of our agents are licensed individuals and trained by the company founder mr william warfield a retired army captain and virginia state patrolmen who was also a bounty hunter so get it together before you have something to say how about thinking about your self in the same situation :evil:


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Ms. Mullins may be good to work for, but apparently has problems with her bonds and apparently her BEA's since she is currently on the board for 10 forfeitures. She has been on the board every time I have checked it for a while. This is public information that anyone can verify.

http://www.courts.state.co.us/iis/ontheboardindex.htm

I can only guess that jjmaddog is saying that all of Ms. Mullins agents are licensed bail agents since Colorado does not offer or require "licensing" for BEA's. It is a requirement to take a 16 hours P.O.S.T. certified course and submit fingerprints to CBI and FBI to confirm no felony convictions in the previous 15 years. The bond agent is required to have a copy of the certificate of course completion, a confirmation from CBI that the BEA has submitted prints and has no felony convictions for 15 years, a statement from the BEA that all information provided is true and correct, and provide the BEA with an authorization to make the arrest prior to hiring him or her for pay. If there is proof that she is not following these requirements, complaints should be filed with the DOI.

As to her bonding the agent out, I would expect any bond agent that I was working for to stand behind me until acquittal or conviction. These things are decided in a court of law, not in the forums. I'm not defending his actions, I don't know the circumstances and I don't know him or her. Since she is in Kevin's AO, he probably knows more than the rest of us.

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(DISCLAIMER - SO THAT NO ISSUES ARISE OUT OF THE ACCUSATIONS OF SLANDER, THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS BASED SOLEY UPON FACTUAL INFORMATION THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC)

Jerry - to start off with, you sound a little mad, well I for one am too, because I have worked hard in this industry to promote a professional image, and am currently lobbying to increase training and professionalism within our state. This is not a personal stab at you, nor will I get into a pissing match with you. The individuals that frequent this website are all in the business of professional bail enforcement and it's image to society, however since you chose to respond, I will reply -

To set the record straight, YES, LaDonna is a great person to work for WHEN YOU CAN GET PAID, which goes to show that she, has you snowed also. I've been party to picking up individuals for LaDonna for quite some time now, and she is a great person, with the exception of hiring unqualified and untrained FRA's that are working cases for 5 % and giving the same cases to 2 or 3 agents for a free for all. A recent individual that was doing pickups for her was a convicted felony sexual offender, who at the time of doing his work for her had a valid felony arrest warrant on him for failing to register as a sexual offender. My issue with LaDonna is that I recently did a revocation for her on an individual that had a total of $ 50k in bonds and she knew he was going to run. She called my team since this individual was supposed to be very dangerous, and wanted me to revoke the smallest bond, a 10k. My normal contracted rates are 15 % for an immediate revocation, however I waved this and was only charging her 10 % ($ 1000) to save her 50 k in a skip (hmmm...sounded pretty fair to me). To this day, she refuses to pay that amount because she gave me the address of where he was at?

You are very right, none of us were there, and maybe everyone doesn't know the true story so I will post the follow up to the original article for everyone to make their own judgements -
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Rocky Mountain News (CO)
November 23, 2005
Section: News
Edition: Final
Page Number: 8A

Bail bondsman's agent chased, shot at wrong man, police say

Source: Sarah Langbein, Rocky Mountain News
Staff writer Hector Gutierrez contributed to this story
The agent for a bail bondsman trying to apprehend a fugitive mistakenly chased down and shot at the wrong man near an elementary school, police said Tuesday.

Gunfire erupted Monday afternoon outside Charlotte Godsman Elementary School, 2120 W. Arkansas Ave., as students were getting out of class.
Jerry Morgan, 23, told police he was tracking down Michael Lopez, 25, a fugitive who has previous arrests for assault and drugs and a conviction for sexual assault on a child.

Morgan and another agent drove to a home in the 1300 block of South Umatilla Street, belonging to extended family members of Lopez. There, they came across Lopez's cousin, Anthony Vialpando, in a light blue Ford.

Family members said Vialpando, 28, does not look anything like his cousin. Vialpando is a few inches taller than Lopez, has a shaved head and has a much darker complexion. Lopez also has a birthmark near his nose, said Lydia Herrera, Lopez's mother.

"I mean they don't look anything alike," Herrera said.

Herrera said Lopez is estranged from the family, and she and other relatives have not seen him for some time.

LaDonna Mullins, who operates LaDonna Bailbonds, accused Vialpando's relatives and the police of covering up for Lopez, and maintained that Lopez was the man they were chasing, was armed with a gun and was known to stay with family members.

"It was the right person," Mullins said. "They're just lying trying to cover their (mistake). It was Michael Lopez in the car. He's armed and dangerous. He will shoot a firearm in a minute."

Mullins said Morgan has provided good service for her company and others. Police said that during the confrontation Morgan and a companion ordered the man out of the car. When he refused, shots were fired into the car.

A chase ensued to the nearby school, where Morgan allegedly fired more shots, not knowing it was Vialpando, police said. Vialpando was not hurt. The incident forced school officials to order a lockdown, keeping students inside.

Herrera, who is Vialpando's aunt, said her frightened nephew drove from the school and parked his car in another neighborhood. Later in the evening, Vialpando returned to his home on South Umatilla Street where he lives with his sister. Herrera said she and family members later spoke with Vialpando and convinced him that he needed to talk to police.

"Anthony was like shocked," Herrera said. "He said, 'Auntie, I want to go to the police, but I don't want them to take me to jail.' I said, 'Why would they take you to jail? You haven't done anything wrong. You haven't been in any trouble.'

"He said, 'Let's just go.' "

Herrera accompanied Vialpando to the District 4 police station late Monday where officers interviewed him. Vialpando then was taken by police to the school and driven to the neighborhood where he had abandoned his car. Officers also took the clothes he wore when he allegedly was shot at to check for gun residue that would show whether he fired a gun at the agent, Herrera said.

Morgan was arrested on suspicion of unlawfully carrying and possessing a concealed weapon and having a weapon on school grounds. He has a prior Colorado arrest record for failing to appear in court. On Tuesday, authorities added an additional charge: felony menacing, preventing Morgan from bailing out of jail.

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When agents such as myself and others see this, we feel disgraced. I start by wondering how a 23 year old (which means factually that you cannot have been in this business for more than 5 years in this state) feels that he may be "highly trained". Secondly, Colorado does not license bail recovery agents, they only require that individuals complete the "Bail Recovery Training", to which I will note that you stated you had received your training from Mr. Warfield, whom if others would like to check, is not registered as a instructor with the Division of Insurance, at least on their website, which I know Beth Hamm, the Chief Investigator, keeps updated.

And again, you are right, none of us were there, however, the training and experience I have, nor the instruction that I give (nor probably the instruction from a retired Army Captain/Virginia State Trooper) would ever allow me or any of my students to put themselves in a situation
where they would be possessing a weapon in a school zone, let alone discharging that weapon, endangering the lives of others in the area. I only look at this in the same fashion that a judge or a jury is going to look at it, and lets say for argumentative purposes that you feel the suspect in the car was going to run you down......YOU put yourself in that position, and a self defense claim is not going to hold up. I would be curious to know as to whom you did receive your "Bail Recovery Training" from.

Again, as I have stressed in other posts, proper training and regulation within this industry will hopefully alleviate mistakes such as this.

Stay Safe !

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you must think before you act I know this I was fired at by one that was running from me yes I could have returned fire but I had to think of where I was at the guy jumped a fence and was in a school yard with kids outside the cops showed up and said I did the right thing by falling back but I fell back to my training and days of being a M.P. and a cop if you put a gun in a little punks hand with no training they are just as bad as the perps that we are afther.


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well you still have not heard the story and what youy read in the newspaper is wrong and the owner of our company is not in colorado first of all not just in denver but national as the business manager for the company i posted the company on the web our owner is the type where he likes being unheard and unseen and if you look at the charges there are no charges for the agent for firing a weapon on school grounds cause the agents gun jammed and secondly the agents are trained in identification so they know exactly who they werer looking for and if it was him for sure as a matter of fact ask the agent why does he bounty hunt is it for self gain or gain for others ask the agent what he does for a living if you take the time to get to know the facts of everything then you can make a statement and when an agent gets wrongfully accused it doesnt just hurt the agent it hurts everyone all agents who are trained in fugitive recovery are trained identifing suspects and the newspaper article is incorrect the two look nothing alike please know the facts before you misjudge and whatever you have against ladonna mullins is between you and her the agent who was looking for this guy was doing the recovery for a purpose not for personal gain but for the gain of a community a city a child


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It was very difficult to follow the above rant without punctuation. Since you have the inside tract on this incident, please fill us in on what has transpired. This is not a flame, just an observation.


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Im glad to see such good judgement used. Why would any one be that stupid to discharge a firearm while children are present in a school zone never the less common sense must run real short. Ive said it before licensing needs to be in place in all states so this sort of thing doesnt happen.

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It's not unusual for the media to distort the facts, no doubt some of what was reported is false, however were I in your shoes I would not be discussing the particulars on an open forum, or be using the name "Maddog" since the media does visit here at times.

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