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 Post subject: Re: Weapons
 Post Posted: Sun 26 Dec 2010 09:37 
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Christmas or not, it ain't polite to talk about your neighbors!

I carry regularly a Glock 23 and a Glock 27 as a back up piece, with the extended magazine. I also occasionally carry a CZ75B 9mm, S&W Chief Special in .40, North American Arms .32 vest gun, and a Texas Arms Derringer double barrel in .45 or .357, depending on the barrels installed. I have 2 Mossberg 12 ga. one with a folding stock, one with a pistol grip. I have several wheel guns, favorites are the SP101 Ruger, same as Bill's that the wife carries and a .45 long Colt Ruger Vaquero and a .45 Black Powder Ruger Old Army (because an Antique Personal Possession is not regulated in most states ;) )

I might have a few more, kinda like my hero Bill, not sure where I hid them ;)

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 Post Posted: Sun 26 Dec 2010 13:18 
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I'm just looking for a light weight 45 to put in my pocket when walking the dogs late at night or doing some leg work on a skip and might just run into him or her expectantly.


That is exactly what I am looking for............ that Glock 36 looks promising I think........ not sure...

You know........... I have a Colt Combat Commander, all steel, satin finish in .45, Pachmayr grips and a trigger job done, but... I know it is in my house but I cannot for the life of me......... find it........... I just haven't looked in the right place... obviously... if I could find it I probably would just keep that... but alas... I know not where it is...............

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 Post subject: Re: Weapons
 Post Posted: Tue 28 Dec 2010 11:32 
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This thread was getting a few posts and I thought it would be an interesting deal to stick on the "Open Discussion" forum... so I moved it... now, go to it... if you have some input...

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 Post Posted: Tue 28 Dec 2010 17:55 
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Ok Bill,

When you move things around, guys with bad eyes and feeble minds, have a hard time keeping up.

Anyway, I will repeat myself, just flopped down 7 bills and change for the Glock 30. Should be able to pick it up in 10 days.

So, I think I will keep the S&W 340PD and the Glock for carry purposes.

Now all I have to do it get the S O to grant me a CCW.


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Now all I have to do it get the S O to grant me a CCW.


I can only imagine the difficulties in obtaining a permit in CA... I figure you already have one but for the average "joe"... got to be a real drawn out and lengthy process .... if you can get one at all... I understood it is up to the local sheriff... is that right?

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Now all I have to do it get the S O to grant me a CCW.


I can only imagine the difficulties in obtaining a permit in CA... I figure you already have one but for the average "joe"... got to be a real drawn out and lengthy process .... if you can get one at all... I understood it is up to the local sheriff... is that right?


I think California and New York City are the Hardest States to obtain a Full CCW. In NYC the only ones besides the Cops having guns are the criminals.. its pretty sad..

In Florida the CCW is Valid in 34 States currently.. which is a nice thing ..

also when you leave (Retired) any Police Department you worked at you can Qualify under H.R. 218 which gives you Full Carry anywhere in the United States.. but your choice of weapons are limited to (2) guns to qualify with.

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choice of weapons are limited to (2) guns to qualify with.


Oh no.... Blue.... only two??!!!... so carry one on each hip... and practice quick draw... :shock:

In Virginia, you have to qualify with whatever you are carrying... and if you get checked and your carrying a different piece... they can write you up... I think there was a thread on that subject on here earlier this month.

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Yeah it kind of stinks .. but they do that I guess because they dont want all the retired cops bringing 40 weapons to the range to qualify... but under my FL CCW you are allowed to carry any model weapon of your choosing as long as it is concealed..Florida has the broadest Concealed Carry License around..

I believe if you live out of the state of Florida you can still apply for a Florida Non Resident CCW .. that will allow you to carry in the 34 states the license allows..

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Florida's Concealed Carry Reciprocity

PLEASE NOTE: The reciprocity information on this page is ALWAYS CURRENT. The Division of Licensing constantly monitors changing gun laws in other states and attempts to negotiate agreements as the laws in those states allow.

This list was last updated on February 25, 2010, when the State of WASHINGTON was added to the reciprocity list.

NOTE: EFFECTIVE July 1, 2009, NEVADA was no longer reciprocal with Florida. Authorities in Nevada notified the Division of Licensing that as of that date Nevada would no longer honor Florida concealed weapon licenses. Therefore, in accordance with the reciprocity provision set forth in section 790.015, Florida Statutes, Florida could no longer honor concealed weapon licenses issued by the State of Nevada.

It is important for license holders to understand that when they are traveling in or through another state they are subject to the firearm laws of that state. We have provided links to the state laws or to the licensing authorities' Web page of each of our reciprocity states so that licensees can do the necessary planning and research when preparing to travel.

FLORIDA'S RECIPROCITY STATES
Alabama (1,3,5)
Alaska (1)
Arizona (6)
Arkansas (1)
Colorado (1,4)
Delaware
Georgia (1)
Idaho (3,6)
Indiana (1,3,6)
Kansas (1)
Kentucky
Louisiana (1)
Michigan (1,4)
Mississippi (1)
Missouri
Montana (3)
Nebraska (1)
New Hampshire (1,3,4,6)
New Mexico (1)
North Carolina (1)
North Dakota (3,6)
Ohio (1)
Oklahoma (1)
Pennsylvania (1,6)
South Carolina (1,4,6)
South Dakota (1,3)
Tennessee (1,6)
Texas (1,3,6)
Utah (1,6)
Vermont (2)
Virginia (1,6)
Washington (1,6)
West Virginia (1)
Wyoming (1,3)


(1) While Florida's law allows licensees to carry stun guns, knives, and billy clubs in a concealed fashion, the laws in these states allow for concealed carry of handguns or pistols ONLY, NOT WEAPONS IN GENERAL. Florida license holders are prohibited from carrying other types of weapons while in these states.

(2) The State of VERMONT is unique in that it does not issue weapon/firearms licenses. Florida licensees - indeed, licensed or unlicensed citizens from any state - may carry in Vermont. This presents a problem for reciprocity with Florida. Florida law provides that an out-of-state resident must have in his or her immediate possession a valid license to carry a concealed weapon or firearm. Since Vermont residents have no such license, the right to concealed carry cannot be extended to them under Florida law.

(3) Individuals qualify for concealed weapon licenses in these states upon reaching 18 years of age. HOWEVER, any licensee of these reciprocity states who is not 21 years of age or older IS PROHIBITED from carrying a concealed weapon or firearm in Florida.

(4) These states will honor the Florida concealed weapon license ONLY IF the licensee is a resident of the State of Florida.

(5) The Attorney General's Office of the State of ALABAMA has indicated that Alabama will honor BOTH resident and non-resident Florida licenses. However, the Alabama Attorney General notes that there is some uncertainty as to the limits of Alabama's reciprocity law as it pertains to non-resident licenses. Pending clarification by the Alabama Legislature or a decision by an Alabama court, he urges non-resident Florida license holders to exercise caution. Refer to the Alabama AG's Web page for the latest information.

(6) These states issue concealed carry licenses to qualified individuals who are non-residents. These non-resident permits cannot be honored under Florida's reciprocity provision.

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Some Question and Answers :

QUESTION: I have a Florida Concealed Weapon/Firearm License, but I am not a legal resident of Florida. Can I travel to the states that recognize Florida licenses and still carry a concealed weapon?

Most of the reciprocity states will honor Florida non-resident permits; however, authorities in a number of states have informed us that there are specific provisions in their laws that restrict the terms of their mutual recognition agreements ONLY to the LICENSED RESIDENTS of other states. Therefore, those individuals who hold Florida licenses but who are not residents of Florida cannot carry concealed weapons in these states. Please take careful note of those states listed above that have a reference to Footnote 4 after them.

BE ADVISED: Because gun laws are subject to change or different interpretation by state courts, we recommend that non-resident Florida licensees call or write licensing authorities in the states in which they will be traveling to obtain the latest information on this important topic.

QUESTION: I have a concealed carry permit from one of the states with which Florida has reciprocity, but I am not a resident of that state. Can I carry legally while visiting a Florida?

No. Florida, like Michigan and New Hampshire, has a residency requirement in its reciprocity law. Florida does not recognize non-resident concealed carry permits from other states.

QUESTION: I am planning a trip to Florida shortly. I do not have a permit from my home state nor do I want to obtain a Florida permit. However, I would still like to have a weapon with me for self-protection. What are my options?

Florida law does allow a citizen to transport a weapon in a private vehicle, even if that citizen DOES NOT HAVE a concealed weapon license. Note the following two key provisions in the law:

Section 790.25(5), which deals specifically with possession in a private conveyance states that "it is lawful and is not a violation of s. 790.01 for a person 18 years of age or older to possess a concealed firearm or other weapon for self-defense or other lawful purpose within the interior of a private conveyance, without a license, if the firearm or other weapon is securely encased or is otherwise not readily accessible for immediate use. Nothing herein contained prohibits the carrying of a legal firearm other than a handgun anywhere in a private conveyance when such firearm is being carried for a lawful use. Nothing herein contained shall be construed to authorize the carrying of a concealed firearm or other weapon on the person. This subsection shall be liberally construed in favor of the lawful use, ownership, and possession of firearms and other weapons, including lawful self-defense as provided in s. 776.012." (Emphasis added.)

Section 790.001(17) defines the term "securely encased" to mean "in a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; or in a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access."

So, while you cannot carry the weapon on your person, you can at least have it nearby in your vehicle while traveling.

The Full Information if you are interested in reading more is located at = http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/index.html

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 Post Posted: Wed 29 Dec 2010 08:56 
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Although I have addressed this topic ad nauseum previously, I would like to reiterate that a ccw for personal protection is not a working permit and should not being carried while working Bail Recovery Cases without a valid working permit in your area of operation. Absent the right to carry legally, one should contract with a local investigator who is legally armed and notify local police of your intent, prior to any actions on your part.

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