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 Post subject: Re: Question about state lines
 Post Posted: Wed 30 Dec 2009 12:20 
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"There is some difference of opinion whether this clause should be enforced by national or by State authority, but surely that difference is not a very material one. If the slave is to be surrendered, it can be of but little consequence to him or to others by which authority it is done." --Lincoln's First Inaugural Address.


What the hell does this have to with returning a "Fugitive" from Justice to a freakin Jail?! Criminals are only "slaves" to their own stupidity No One placed them in that situation . . . BUT . . .themselves.

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 Post Posted: Thu 21 Jan 2010 00:44 
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I have no idea who this guy is and I don't really care. I don't see what his identity or professional qualifications or lack there of have to do with his rather benign question. Please correct me if I am missing something.

I personally think that a public forum who allows anyone to register should exist if it's only purpose is for non public information provided only to well vetted members. I can understand not providing sensitive personal information about people to strangers but harmless questions like this regardless of who is asking only serve to educate the everyone including myself.

I have not yet been to Texas or Arkansas but in the near future will need to know the process in Texas. I have done some limited research and it's complicated enough I would like a Texas PI to explain the process to me. I am also interested in the Uniform extradition act and how it affects my job. Since I have not dealt with many cases that crossed state lines I assumed Taylor vs. Taintor covered it. Of course I would have researched more before doing any interstate recovery. So now I will have to post the same question again to get the answer which will then be on this forum for everyone vetted or not to read.

My point is this site could be a great resource for everyone and sharing our knowledge in a public forum will be used by the good and the bad regardless of who asked the question. A simple explanation of the problems with this question without berating the author of the post might have been more useful. Just an idea as this site is very protective of information about bail enforcement which is available just about any where. If this sites purpose is not to make it easier on everyone to find answers what is the point of having a place to ask questions?

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 Post subject: Re: Question about state lines
 Post Posted: Thu 21 Jan 2010 17:00 
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Two quick points.

1. The public forum can be used by anyone, with any question, on most any related subject. The answers come from a very wide variety of members, some real, some cowboys, some idiots (oh yeah, there are some here too) and some that although are very knowledgeable, may tend to pull a chain or two, especially when the question is coming from someone that has been uncovered and is quickly shown to be asking for the sole purpose of stirring something up... even if the question itself may seem legit.

2. Many of the real members (the ones that are truly in this business and have been for years) tend to have a short fuse or just may get a little tired of the SOS coming at them. Search engines on here will find most anything and we constantly inform questionnaires of this feature but often times it seems to go right over their heads.

It is very seldom that a question is asked that has not been asked and answered in a previous post... I guess some of us may get a bit short when this happens but running a search for answers is what gets results quickly. I have only been a member here for several years but this site has been up for a good while and a lot of the members have been around a while.

... and I will offer one other bit of personal advice... as you ask about Texas specifically...........

I have said it before.... as relates to the individual state laws and how they apply to our business.... "the rule of thumb is... there are no rules of thumb". Every state, every jurisdiction, every location, every town, every police department, court or LE in any capacity has its own set of rules and they may or may not be what is written in the books... that is an absolute fact and must be addressed by anyone in this business.

This is one of the main reasons this business is so difficult to get into, to maintain and to operate in legally for very long.

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 Post subject: Re: Question about state lines
 Post Posted: Thu 21 Jan 2010 18:38 
 
The law is whatever the cop on the scene says it is, until either some other cop shows up that is above him and does know the law, or, you are taken to jail, post bond, get out your 55 gallon drum of hundred dollar bills out and hire a lawyer to explain the law to the cop in court.

Thats a fact.


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 Post Posted: Thu 21 Jan 2010 20:05 
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Just an idea as this site is very protective of information about bail enforcement which is available just about any where. If this sites purpose is not to make it easier on everyone to find answers what is the point of having a place to ask questions?

If the answers are available anywhere, why should members here help some lazy butt not do his any of his own homework?

But, really what is different about this guy is that he does not appear to be in the business. Check out his lack of signature and his location. A smart a$$ like that deserves a smart a$$ answer in my opinion.

But then, I can be a smart a$$ some times too.


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 Post subject: Re: Question about state lines
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Maybe I just don't understand why anyone would sign up for a public website about fugitive recovery if not to provide information on the subject of Fugitive recovery to the public. Maybe I am wrong for thinking this site was created to help people instead of bragging about how much everyone knows and refuses to tell anyone because they are professionals. I don't think having a signature or identifying information should even matter on a public internet forum. I personally think it's a really stupid idea. I can use many of the signatures and posts from people on this forum to find out a lot of personal information about them. I just have a very different definition of professionalism I guess. Not trying to put anyone down but why would you sign up for a public forum designed to provide information on the fugitive recovery industry which requires no vetting of the members if you don't want share your knowledge with everyone?

Saying that you won't provide the information because somebody is lazy and can go look it up themselves(something they are trying to do by asking the question in the first place) seems strange to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Question about state lines
 Post Posted: Sat 23 Jan 2010 16:41 
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Maybe I just don't understand why anyone would sign up for a public website about fugitive recovery if not to provide information on the subject of Fugitive recovery to the public. Maybe I am wrong for thinking this site was created to help people instead of bragging about how much everyone knows and refuses to tell anyone because they are professionals. I don't think having a signature or identifying information should even matter on a public internet forum. I personally think it's a really stupid idea. I can use many of the signatures and posts from people on this forum to find out a lot of personal information about them. I just have a very different definition of professionalism I guess. Not trying to put anyone down but why would you sign up for a public forum designed to provide information on the fugitive recovery industry which requires no vetting of the members if you don't want share your knowledge with everyone?

Saying that you won't provide the information because somebody is lazy and can go look it up themselves(something they are trying to do by asking the question in the first place) seems strange to me.


asked and answered a kazillion different ways . . . whenever I sign up somewhere I take the time to actually read the Forum before popping a question. There is a wealth of information here, and WE have all answered the same questions over and over. I am thinking that is why the "search" feature is available ;-) . . . no offense . . . but time is money and there is very little money around.
This person was simply wanting to know how difficult it would be for his Bondsman to bring his Azz back to where he ran from. It does not take a rocketscientist to know who is asking questions. Would sure hate to read someday of an estranged family member, spouse, girlfriend or boyfriend being disposed of due to someone here delving out the info freely.
Now does that help you to understand a little better? I am sure that some of the others can say it a bit more eloquently than myself.

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 Post subject: Re: Question about state lines
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Saying that you won't provide the information because somebody is lazy and can go look it up themselves(something they are trying to do by asking the question in the first place) seems strange to me.


Do you think we just might be attempting to get someone to use their head a bit??????? You might read my 2 points above again slowly..... there is an answer in there somewhere.... if you can find it, but if your just interested in dragging out a non-issue... I'm done. I think your question and point have been addressed.

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 Post subject: Re: Question about state lines
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The fact is that he wasn't interested in the answer, as I posted it, and he did not respond. Some people get off on spinning people up, for me, I don't have the time to deal with it. To your second point, when someone is asking questions for or about information that has been previously addressed ad nauseum, and that information is available through a simple search feature, it benefits them not to spoon feed them. If someone desires to be successful in this business they have to learn quickly how to acquire information themselves. If the question is off the wall, a rare instance or based in obscurity, with the answer not widely known, that is a horse of a different color. I have met numerous people that were afraid to interview a potential witness, Judas or relative on a case, but verbalized a desire to succeed in this business. A prevalent dichotomy in this industry.

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 Post subject: Re: Question about state lines
 Post Posted: Mon 25 Jan 2010 12:37 
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Let's not forget the fact that some persons
who ask questions on here are asking for their own benefit
- i.e. the fugitive is asking the question.

This guy apparantly had some legal issues involving a warrant.
We are not on here to Help fugitives.

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