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 Post subject: Re: Shots fired during attempted Lake Stevens bail bond arrest
 Post Posted: Wed 11 Jun 2008 16:19 
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 Post subject: Re: Shots fired during attempted Lake Stevens bail bond arrest
 Post Posted: Wed 11 Jun 2008 16:24 
 
Well other than that lovely quote about Dog, that article wasn't too horrible. I dunno...I'm thinking we're pretty much hosed on that one either way we look at it. I will keep an eye out and see if any charges are filed on the agent.


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 Post subject: Bounty hunter arrested in Lake Stevens assault
 Post Posted: Thu 12 Jun 2008 10:03 
 
Here's the latest on this case:
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The man reportedly fired several shots while trying to take a woman into custody

By Jackson Holtz
Herald Writer

LAKE STEVENS — A bounty hunter who makes his living putting people in handcuffs wound up wearing a set Wednesday night.

Lake Stevens police arrested Nathan Hingson, 43, the bail bond recovery agent who admitted opening fire in a Lake Stevens grocery store parking lot Friday while trying to arrest a woman.

The man is being investigated for second-degree assault, a felony, Lake Stevens Police Chief Randy Celori said.

“This application of deadly force was not appropriate. It placed a considerable amount of citizens in danger,” the police chief said.

The arrest came after Lake Stevens police interviewed the woman Hingson tried, unsuccessfully, to detain, Celori said.

On Wednesday, the woman, 25, of Lake Stevens talked with a detective about the events that unfolded in the busy parking lot outside Norm’s Market on Lundeen Parkway.

The woman told police she feared for her life when a man put a 9mm pistol against the unopened window of her pickup and told her to get out or he’d shoot, Celori said.

She told police the man never identified himself as a bail recovery agent and didn’t have a badge, Celori said.

Hingson last week told The Herald that he tried to arrest the woman on outstanding warrants, and that he broke out the window of her pickup truck when she started to drive away. He said he shot twice after she tried to run him over.

Police believe Hingson fired as many as eight rounds. Detectives worked through the weekend and interviewed other witnesses who independently corroborated the woman’s account of Hingson’s conduct during Friday’s melee, Celori said. Police on Wednesday expected to book Hingson into the Snohomish County Jail for investigation of assault, reckless endangerment and unlawful discharge of a firearm, Celori said.

Hingson feared for his life and was defending himself when he used his weapon, said his attorney, Julian Denes of Everett, in a letter written prior to the arrest.

Denes said Wednesday evening that he expects his client to enter a not-guilty plea.

The woman told detectives she was able to drive the pickup a few blocks before flat tires forced her to get out and run. She ducked behind a building and watched as Hingson drove into the area, then returned to the store parking lot. She hid out at a friend’s house, the police chief said.

Hingson, whose bail bond company is in Lynnwood, on Friday said he wasn’t looking for the woman, but stumbled upon her in the Lake Stevens parking lot.

Earlier this week, Andy Forster, an Everett-based bail recovery agent, negotiated a peaceful way for the woman to pay her bonds, quash her arrest warrants and secure guarantees that she’ll appear in court to face misdemeanor charges.

That cleared the way for her to talk to detectives without worrying about ending up behind bars.

Forster said he has reason to believe Hingson lured the woman to Norm’s Market on Friday.

“It was a setup. He didn’t just run into her out there,” Forster said.

Forster said when he talked to the woman on Monday, “she was scared for her life at that point.”

On Wednesday morning, friends of the woman posted bond for her at Liberty Bail Bonds of Everett, manager Wayne Marshall said.

The bond company quashed the nearly $23,000 in arrest warrants the woman had outstanding and rescheduled court dates in Lynnwood, Everett and Marysville, he said.

The woman still owes money to Bail Bond by Nate, the business Hingson owns with his wife, Marshall said.

Hingson also is being investigated by the state Department of Licensing, the agency that regulates the bail bond industry.

In February 2007, the state accused Hingson of failing to keep adequate records, committing “material fraud” and failing to maintain a trust account for his business. Under a negotiated agreement, Hingson’s bail bond agency license was suspended and he was ordered to take accounting classes, records show.

The state issues different bail bond licenses, some for operating a business, others for issuing bonds and a third for bounty hunters.

Hingson has a valid license to act as a bounty hunter.

Reporter Jackson Holtz: 425-339-3437 or jholtz@heraldnet.com.

Source: http://www.heraldnet.com


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 Post subject: Re: Shots fired during attempted Lake Stevens bail bond arrest
 Post Posted: Thu 12 Jun 2008 15:00 
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The bond company quashed the nearly $23,000 in arrest warrants the woman had outstanding and rescheduled court dates in Lynnwood, Everett and Marysville, he said.
The woman still owes money to Bail Bond by Nate, the business Hingson owns with his wife, Marshall said. caz

Definitley a misnomer . . . the Bail company did not QUASH the warrants ~ the warrants were served and the bonds written . . . duhhhhh

Finally, the answer to the question that I asked . . . My question is . . .
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So can people just driving down the street see someone that they know has a warrant, grab them, and go collect the bounty? (of course they would have to a lic. BEA )

He knew she was wanted ~ because, it was his wife's bail company that originally wrote the paper.

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 Post subject: Re: Shots fired during attempted Lake Stevens bail bond arrest
 Post Posted: Thu 12 Jun 2008 17:42 
 
LuVonda,

Well technically they quashed the warrant by posting a bond on the warrant. In Washington, you can post a bond on a warrant and it quashes the warrant and a new hearing is issued without having to be present. This is often used for people that are out of state or can't/don't want to appear in court or surrender themselves. The warrant would have been "served" if she was arrested or turned herself in. Just a matter of terminology I think.

Also, I answered your question about whether any licensed agent could just pick up anybody with warrants in an earlier post. The law states that in order to arrest somebody with a warrant, the agent must be contracted with the bail company and the agent must have a copy of that contract listing the charge(s). Even if you are working for your own company, a contract must be completed in order to arrest your own defendant. Yes, you must contract with yourself. =]


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Any other info as of now?

Was curious if those 8 rounds were proven or if the police just "believe" he fired 8 times.

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 Post subject: Re: Shots fired during attempted Lake Stevens bail bond arrest
 Post Posted: Thu 12 Jun 2008 20:26 
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Well technically they quashed the warrant by posting a bond on the warrant. In Washington, you can post a bond on a warrant and it quashes the warrant and a new hearing is issued without having to be present. This is often used for people that are out of state or can't/don't want to appear in court or surrender themselves. The warrant would have been "served" if she was arrested or turned herself in. Just a matter of terminology I think.


Then using that term would make sense. Here the warrant can be 'quashed" if it is deemed that it should have never been issued.
There is no other use of that term here. I have written bonds in absentia (the individual was in custody outside of Arkansas) and the bond is deemed "served" and signed off on by an Officer.


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Also, I answered your question about whether any licensed agent could just pick up anybody with warrants in an earlier post. The law states that in order to arrest somebody with a warrant, the agent must be contracted with the bail company and the agent must have a copy of that contract listing the charge(s). Even if you are working for your own company, a contract must be completed in order to arrest your own defendant. Yes, you must contract with yourself. =]


I had posed the question wrong . . . I had not read anywhere in the article that he had any connection with the girl, other than he knew that she had warrants.
I can realistically see some that would frequent the Courts (or InterNet) and know who was and was not wanted and act accordingly . . . there are "rambo" types everywhere :shock:
So, what I should of asked was . . . "How did he know that she was wanted and what gave him the authority to try and affect the arrest" . . . then you posted the followup article that states that his wife's company was the holder of the bond and that answered my question . . . he had personal knowledge and was contracted to get her . . .
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 Post subject: Re: Shots fired during attempted Lake Stevens bail bond arrest
 Post Posted: Fri 13 Jun 2008 00:02 
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In most counties in CO, to get a warrant quashed, the person usually has to be booked into a jail and a bond posted if it is a new warrant, or a FTA where the person hasn't previously posted bond. Alternatively, if bond was posted and the original bondsman gives a Consent to remain on the bond before or after the court date, and the defendant or their attorney files a motion to have the date continued in conjunction with the consent, it may or may not be granted at the discretion of the court.

All counties have their own rules. Mine requires a Motion to Continue or Reinstate to be filed by the Defendant or their attorney if they have one along with my Consent. One that neighbors mine will accept a faxed Consent from the bondsman and quash the warrant with a phone call from the Defendant, but only on their first bond appearance. One north of me will accept an original Consent, nothing faxed, if the defendant appears in person at the clerk's window. The warrant isn't quashed until the person shows up on the new court date, so if they get picked up in the meantime they get arrested.

When my defendants work with me, I have no problem in explaining their options, and in helping them in whatever way I can. Sometimes they prefer to rebond, sometimes they will try to get the bond reinstated, sometimes they want to procrastinate or run. I always tell them that I will do what I can, as long as they work with me I will work with them, but I can't control what the court does. Some want to avoid the hassle and fear, so come in and rebond. Some "hide out" until their bond gets reinstated. Some procrastinate until turning themselves in at the last minute. Some procrastinate and/or just flat out hide or run, thinking that I will pay their bonds and let them go. They just don't get it that I will eventually find them, and they will go to jail. I have a year after I pay a bond to get remission. Even after that, if I find them, they will pay. I have only had to pay a couple of small ones, but even if I don't get my bond money back, the defendant and/or cosigner will eventually suffer. Warrants are forever, and judgments can be renewed indefinately.

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 Post subject: Re: Shots fired during attempted Lake Stevens bail bond arrest
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Any other info as of now?

Was curious if those 8 rounds were proven or if the police just "believe" he fired 8 times.



The the police have said they think eight rounds were fired that most likely correct, insofar as they have checked the weapon, recovered spent shell cases and the spent rounds.

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 Post subject: Bounty Hunter tracked woman
 Post Posted: Thu 19 Jun 2008 12:43 
 
Another update.

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Lake Stevens police say the man involved in a shooting did not happen on the wanted woman as he claimed

By Jackson Holtz
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LAKE STEVENS — The bounty hunter who opened fire June 6 in a convenience store parking lot allegedly used a confidential informant to track down the woman he was trying to arrest, according to documents obtained Thursday.

No one was hurt when Nathan Hingson, co-owner of Bail Bond by Nate in Lynnwood, used a firearm to try to detain a Lake Stevens woman, 25, wanted on misdemeanor warrants.

Lake Stevens police on Wednesday arrested Hingson, 45. He was jailed for investigation of second-degree assault and was released on bond early Thursday.

After the June 6 shooting, Hingson told The Herald he happened to see the woman’s pickup truck at Norm’s Market on Lundeen Parkway and moved in to make the arrest.

Police allege Hingson used an informant to locate and set up a meeting at the Lake Stevens store, according to a police affidavit that was prepared after the man’s arrest.

When Hingson approached the woman in the parking lot, he allegedly did not identify himself as a bail recovery agent and made no mention that he wanted to arrest her on warrants, the papers said.

Hingson allegedly pointed a 9mm semi-automatic pistol at the woman in her pickup and yelled, “Open the door or I’ll shoot,” the documents said.

Hingson earlier said he smashed out the driver’s window as the woman tried to leave.

The woman told police she began to back up, but that path was blocked, so she drove forward and Hingson began shooting, the documents said.

Police found six spent shell casings in the parking lot.

The bounty hunter reportedly told police he broke the window because he thought the woman was going to escape. He said he fired his weapon at the truck’s tires because “he felt she was going to strike him with the vehicle,” the documents said.

No charges have been filed. Hingson’s attorney said the bounty hunter plans to enter a not guilty plea if charges are filed.

Reporter Jackson Holtz: 425-339-3437 or jholtz@heraldnet.com.

Source: http://www.heraldnet.com


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