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speezack
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008 05:34 |
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Joined: Fri 02 Mar 2007 10:51 Posts: 5055 Location: South Central Virginia
FRN Agency ID #: 1474
Experience: More than 10 years
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LuVonda wrote: But on the other hand you know how much the media loves ripping us if they think that something is there. <<deleted>>That is why we can never just take anything for granted . . . Always do the research on where you are going before you get there.
Luvonda, you know, the thing that really gets me when confronting hostile media or even hostile LE of any persuasion, be them police, magistrates, judges, court clerks… etc, etc… is the fact that when I first went in this business… I honestly believed that we were all on the same page… not so, be it jealousy or for whatever reason, there are those out there that view us in a very negative light and it is a constant problem we must work to overcome and get straight. I am proud of what I do and in the areas that know me, my reputation and the reputation of my family has changed much of the perception of the bonding community. Unfortunately, there are still those in our industry that continue to promote the bad rap.
Got to go to court this morning…………………… hot dog!!
Pleasure reading your posts…
Later
_________________ Bill Marx, Sr. "FREE STATE BAIL BONDS" "FREE STATE INVESTIGATIONS" DCJS: 99-176979 Cell: 434-294-0222
"Endeavor to Persevere" "Lone Watie"
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that , comes from bad judgment" "Will Rogers"
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KARMA
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008 10:26 |
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Joined: Mon 14 Feb 2005 10:59 Posts: 7563 Location: Arkansas
FRN Agency ID #: 340
Experience: More than 10 years
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I run into the same thing here . . . I was once told "I wish that I had the authority that you do" and I said "the only Authority that I have that is really greater than yours in on the re-arrest ~ I don't have to have a warrant to enter a house" . . . I think that you pretty much nailed when you said 'jealous' . . . They view BBAs the same way here as well . . . we are only one rung up the ladder from the lawyers in the eyes of some LEOs that is and of course the majority of the 'Public' sees us as the bottom of the pool . . ..until they need us then WE are the good guys
I do really like my job tho, I truly try to help the people that I bond . . . I do not just take their money and go on. They call me the Dear Abby of the Jail A quick trip to the store takes at least two hours You are right being the "Good Guy" has helped to change the way that the Industry is viewed here as well and then along comes a weenie into the mix and they just don't last very long
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Do not consider anything for your interest which makes you break your word, quit your modesty, or inclines you to any practice which will not bear the light, or look the world in the face .... Marcus Antonius I AM Some Folks "KARMA" and A MODERATOR @ FRN
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SnoWolf
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008 11:46 |
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Joined: Tue 12 Dec 2006 17:33 Posts: 1611 Location: Sharpsburg, Georgia
FRN Agency ID #: 1999
Experience: 7 - 10 years
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I have always thought I had a good relationship with the sheriff of my county. I have recently found out that he has a problem with Bail Recovery. One of his officers (shall remain nameless) told me that the sheriff has made comments about how much he dislikes this industry. Then, and only then, a few things started makeing sence to me. I was told it would take 48 hours for approval or denial to work for bondsmen in the county....so, far it has been three weeks. I also need his approval for a business license (to get the "good" data searches) and he told me he will not approve the license because "I have never and will never approve a Recovery Agency for a business license. Be a sub-contracter and be happy with it." When I asked what his reasons for not approving were, he just repeated "never have and never will". So, now I am stuck with one file apiece from three different bonding companies with no way of searching. It figures that these three trial files are the guys from other areas, with no correct information in the file, and I have no search engines to help with some decent info. I have ideas of how to skirt the "legal" license (apply in other counties with friends addresses, apply in other states and use my office as a satelite office, ect.) but I would rather do it professionally and truthfully. At this time, I just don't see that happening, though.
_________________ ******************** Thomas SnoWolf FRN# 1999 GAPB 20120726 NSIS ST0707 http://www.rocksolidrg.com "The hero is not the man that acts without fear, He is the man that acts inspite of fear"
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Yak
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008 11:55 |
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Joined: Sun 16 Jan 2005 11:40 Posts: 966 Location: New Jersey
FRN Agency ID #: 1208
Experience: More than 10 years
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Scott, Perhaps Incorperating a private company in your own name might be the solution to get the privy of these sights.
_________________ Yak .... H.B.I.C. Riverside Enforcement Hackensack NJ 07601 Ph. (201) 538 - 2947 Fax (201) 342 - 5405
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KARMA
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008 13:25 |
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Joined: Mon 14 Feb 2005 10:59 Posts: 7563 Location: Arkansas
FRN Agency ID #: 340
Experience: More than 10 years
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Another way is to be appointed by the Court as a Civil Process Server, that opens a few more doors
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Do not consider anything for your interest which makes you break your word, quit your modesty, or inclines you to any practice which will not bear the light, or look the world in the face .... Marcus Antonius I AM Some Folks "KARMA" and A MODERATOR @ FRN
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SnoWolf
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008 17:04 |
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Joined: Tue 12 Dec 2006 17:33 Posts: 1611 Location: Sharpsburg, Georgia
FRN Agency ID #: 1999
Experience: 7 - 10 years
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Mom, I may call later. I am waiting for another call to come in, right now. If it isn't late when I finish that one, I will.
_________________ ******************** Thomas SnoWolf FRN# 1999 GAPB 20120726 NSIS ST0707 http://www.rocksolidrg.com "The hero is not the man that acts without fear, He is the man that acts inspite of fear"
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Mdbtyhtr
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008 17:38 |
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Joined: Thu 06 Jul 2006 14:22 Posts: 3982 Location: Maryland and Virginia
FRN Agency ID #: 455
Experience: More than 10 years
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Scott
Try hiring a local PI to do the research for you, pay them by the search or a piece of the prize! That is how I got started, I knew nothing of databases, I pulled trash and went through that stuff while cops on the night shift laughed at me. Old school, but it worked for me.
Luvonda
The other issue is the shift change, you can have cooperation and professional courtesy on one shift and can be threatened with jail by the next
all in the same jurisdiction.
Bill
I have found that most LEO appreciate what we do and respond based on how we present ourselves. If we don't check in, they neither trust or respect us as they feel we have something to hide. I have also checked in and learned of local "Policy" that may restrict your activities that wasn't written into any statutes.
Ya'll stay safe,
Scott
_________________ R.E. "Scott" MacLean III
"Leaders are like Eagles, you never see them in a flock, but one at a time"
Chesapeake Group Investigations, Inc. Chesapeake Bail Bonds 877-574-0500 301-392-1100 (fax) 301-392-1900 (Office)
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agent501
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Post subject: Posted: Tue 26 Feb 2008 12:10 |
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Joined: Wed 20 Feb 2008 15:39 Posts: 13 Location: United States
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Beaver in the news again:
If you need a ‘get out of jail card,’ a bail bondsman is the one to see
Drew Brooks
Mark Beaver, owner of Beaver Bail Bonds in Shelby and bondsman Larry Trull keep constant tabs on the company's more than 500 clients in 20 counties.
Jeff Melton
SHELBY — Mark Beaver has had some pretty odd days on the job.
His employees have driven to Tennessee and flown to Washington State to pick up clients.
Once, he flew in his personnal plane to Myrtle Beach to cut off one of his clients. When he found the man, he put him in handcuffs and brought him back to Cleveland County.
Beaver is a bail bondsman and owner of Beaver Bail Bonds in Shelby. That means he’s part insurance salesman, marriage counseler, babysitter, taxi driver and cop.
But while his job entails bits from each of the aforementioned careers, he prefers to refer to himself as a banker.
“We’re basically the same thing as a bank,” he said. “We get you out of jail on our credit and charge you for it.”
Beaver spends each day in the company of people who may be criminals — he maintains that all of his clients are innocent until proven otherwise — but he’s not hardened by the job.
“We look at them as customers,” he said. “It’s not up to us to judge them. People make mistakes; everybody does.”
Admittedly, Beaver doesn’t look like your typical banker. On the day The Star spoke with him, he wore an orange Harley Davidson shirt and had a pinch of tobacco nestled in his cheek.
Still, Beaver said the job of a bail bondsman is a far cry from what’s shown on television in shows like “Dog the Bounty Hunter.”
“It’s nothing like that,” Beaver said. “I’m not the rough guy you see in the movies.”
And while his job gives him powers others don’t have — bail bondsmen do not need a warrant to enter a home and detain a fugitive — he’s not a man living on the edge of the law.
He keeps constant tabs on his company’s more than 500 clients in 20 counties, arranging for rides to court and helping attorneys find their clients, all while freeing up space in the county jail.
According to the North Carlina Bail Agents Association, bondsmen save the state more than one billion dollars a year by creating space in prisons.
“No other pretrial release system can provide these savings and offer these services at no cost to the taxpayer,” the group’s president, Tony Woods, said.
Bail bondsmen are also more efficient at making sure their clients come to court than other methods, such as when a defendant is allowed to sign for himself, according to the U.S. Justice Department.
In Cleveland County, Beaver said bondsmen have an excellent relationship with the courts, especially District Attorney Rick Shaffer.
“They try their darndest to be understanding with people,” he said. “They work with us real well.”
Woods said that type of relationship was extremely important.
“It’s one the bondsman should cultivate as soon as possible,” he said.
“It used to make me mad when I saw a bondsman snatch up the guy that I worked hard to get,” Beaver, a former cop, said. “But it’s part of the justice system.”
_________________ "We Own The Night"
Bob Troiano (aka "LB")
President NAFRA
Five O Fugitive Recovery, LLC
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Culpeper, Virginia 22701
St John, KS 67576
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www. americanbea.com (under construction)
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