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beitso
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 04 Oct 2004 14:31 |
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NOT TO GET OFF THE SUBJECT BUT HGUNNER I TAKE YOUR MNENTIONING THINGS IN MY HOME STATE AS YOU STATING SO TO MAKE ME THANK YOU HAVE HELPED MY STATE FOR THE GREATER GOO. SO YOU HAVE BEEN TO BURLINGTON DO YOU WANT ME TO GIVE YOU A METAL. DOING BEA WORK IN VERMONT ISNT SOMETHING I WOULD MAKE AN EFFERT TO TELL THE WORLD SINCE VERMONT STATE HAS ONE OF THE LOWEST CRIME RATES OF ALL STATES IN THE UNION. NOT TRYING TO INSULT YOU JUST MAKING A POINT. AS FAR AS DEBATES.. WHO EVER , I CANT REMEMBER IF IT WAS YOU OR NOT, WHO MADE THE P9OINT ABOUT BEING INFORMED. WOULD THIS BE INFORMED AS IN MATCHING YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE CHAPMANS OR BEING INFORMED TO WHAT IS AND ISNT. YOU ALL HAVE ME LOST THERE.
YOU SEE THE WAY LIFE WORKS IS PEOPLE GET INFORMATION NO MATTER WHAT FIELD THEY ARE IN AND BASE THEIR DESSION OF WHAT IS OR ISNT ON THEIR FINDINGS. I HAVE SEEN ALOT OF THINGS HERE THAT TO SAY THE LEAST ARE JUST PLAN QUESTIONABLE. LAW MAKING REMARKS ABOUT THE CHAPMAN THAT ARE JUST UNPROVEN AND CAN PROVE OTHER WISE TO. FOR EXAMPLE BRINGING UP BETH CHAPMAN'S legal issues and even getting petty enough to say she and duane chapman arent married ( which they are by the way) HER ARREST BUT NOT MAKING THE POINTS ON WHAT THEY WERE FOR AND THEY OUTCOME. i CAN UNDERSTAND BEAS WANTING THE CHAPMANS TO DO THINGS MORE BY THE BOOK OR MORE LIKE THEM SO IT DOESNT LOOK LIKE A BIG PUNK ACTION THING GOING ON. BUT TO PULL UP PETTY STUFF IS JUST FOOLISH. SO AS FAR AS THE PEOPLE WHO SEE THIS BOARD WHO ARENT BEAS OR WHO ARENT EVEN IN LAW. THEY WONT AND DONT THINK ON THAT LEVEL. LAW YOU CLAIMED IN A POST SOME WHERE EITHER HERE OR THE MANY BOARDS YOU ARE ON ABOUT THIS THAT YOU TALKED TO CHAPMAN FOR 45 MINUTES ONCE ON THE PHONE. YOU HAVE FORGETTEN TO MENTION HOWEVER YOUR INVOLVMENT WITH FOLLOWING THEM THOUGH SO THIS LEADS ME TO THINK YOUR THOUGHST ON THIS WHOLE THING ARE ONE SIDED AND NOT NESS. THE RIGHT SIDE.... MY POINT; CONCERN IS GREAT PROTECTING YOUR PROFESSION IS GREAT. TRYING TO GET BILLS, LAWS AND MANDATES PASSED EVEN BETTER BUT SINGLEING OUT THE CHAPMANS IS FOOLISH.. THE NEW HBO SHOW FAMILY BONDS WELL THE PEOPLE IN THAT ARE AS BAD IF NOT WORSE THEN THE CHAPMANS BUT I DO NOT SEE ANYONE MENTIONING THEM!
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rex
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Post subject: Just A Thought Posted: Mon 04 Oct 2004 16:12 |
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Joined: Thu 25 Dec 2003 14:26 Posts: 430 Location: Tracy, California
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It would appear that there is a discussion developing between Beitso and Hgunner, and I'd just like to make a suggestion or two and then maybe squeek in an opinion or question using plain language.
Productive debate will be forestalled when one precipitates his or her position with, "You see the way life works is...," or, "...do you want me to give you a (sic) metal." (I think 'medal' is probably the word that was meant to be used). Perhaps this discussion could evolve in a professional manner if being insulting and then claiming not to be is avoided.
It is also just a suggestion to stay on point. The City of San Jose California had one of the lowest crime rates in the country, but the stats didn't keep me from looking there, and I closed alot of cases in that safe city. Am I to take pains to avoid offending one's fragile sensibilities by ignoring my San Jose stats? Trying to dissuade Hgunner from mentioning Burlington based on a fantasy is off point, but I brought this up in support of the suggestion to stay on point.
For people to "match....thoughts" there must first be a common frame of reference, so let me suggest a plan for eventually matching thoughts:
Do the work.
That's it. If everyone in a discussion (or debate) has done the same work then the subject matter on that work can be intelligently and productively discussed. Absent a working knowledge of the subject matter, all one has to base his or her opinion is Duane Chapman and the like.
Now for the plain language:
Beitso, let's not mince words here. If something I've said is disagreeable then address me directly with a specific grievance point by point. Your posts are disorganized (read: all over the map), ill-informed, insulting and gives the impression of arrogant presumption without a spell check.
Just making a point,
Rex
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beitso
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 04 Oct 2004 23:39 |
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AND HERE WE GO AGAIN A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF SINCE SOMEONE DOESNT SEE YOUR POINT INSULT THEM! FIRST OF ALL NO ONE ADDRESSED ANYTHING TO YOU SO THAT POINT YOU MADE ABOUT COMING TO YOU WAS FOOLISH UNLESS YOU WERE THE PERSON WHO POSTED WHOM I COULDNT REMEMBER WHICH AREA. RIGHT?
MY POINTS ARE NOT ALL OVER AND AS FAR AS SPELL CHECK NO I WANTED THE WORD METAL... THAT IS WHY I PUT IT THERE!!!
THERE IS ONE MEMBER OF THIS BOARD WHO KNOWS WHO THEY ARE.... THAT CHASES AFTER THE CHAPMAN'S SO MUCH THERE HAS BEEN INVESTIGATIONS ON THAT!!
I MENTIONED THE VERMONT ISSUE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO REASON FOR HGUNNER TO MENTION THE STATE OF VERMONT IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT WAS NEVER MENTIONED IN THESE POST ANY WHERE BEFORE THAT SO ONE WOULD CONCLUDED THAT WAS PUT THERE TO IMPRESS ME OR WHO EVER READING IT. I PERSONALLY AM NOT IMPRESSED WITH SOME ONE " HUNTING" SOMEONE DOWN IN VERMONT..... LIKE BETWEEN THE COWS AND THE TREE'S HERE THEY WOULD BE HARD TO FIND. AND THAT WAS MY POINT!!
YOU WANT DIRECT POINTS ON THE CHAPMAN THEN HERE ARE SOME;
BETH SMITH HAS BEEN POINTED OUT HERE AS HAVING CHARGES ON HER. AND HAVING CHANGED HER NAMED. ------- CONCLUSION CHARGES WERE DROPPED IN THAT CASE AND DIDNT ANY ONE THINK OF THIS.. MAYBE JUST MAYBE SHE GOES BY BETH WHICH IS THE ABRV. OF HER MIDDLE NAME BECAUSE SHE HATES THE NAME ALICE AND THAT MAYBE SMITH WAS A NAME FROM THE DIFFERANT MARRIAGE... IT IS POSSIABLE RIGHT?? IT IS ALSO POSSIABLE THAT EVEN THOUGH CLAIMS HAVE BEEN MADE THAT HER AND DUANE ARE NOT MARRIED THAT THEY DID MARRY AT SOME POINT RECENTLY...rIGHT?
DUANE CHAPMAN- MURDER CHARGE- IS IT OR IS IT NOT POSSIABLE THAT HIS CASE WAS REVIEWED AND REOPENED AT SOME POINT GIVING HIM A LESS TIME SERVED OR THAT THE CHARGES WERE NOT FULL MURDER CHARGES. THE BIKER GANG HE CLAIMS TO HAVE BEEN IN- ITS BEEN SAID DOES NOT CLAIM HIM BUT ISNT IT POSSIABLE THEY ARE JUST SAYING THAT WHY IS IT THAT THEY WOULD BE CONSIDERED TRUTHFUL THEMSELF.
WHO HAS GOTTEN CLOSE ENOUGH FROM THIS BOARD TO SEE IF THE BADGE THEY ALL WEAR IS A COLORADO STATE BADGE. A REAL OFFICAL BADGE.... NO ONE RIGHT... AND SINCE ITS BEEN ALLEDGED THAT, THAT STATE HAS DONE NOTHING AND WANTS TO DO NOTHING ARE WE TO ASSUME THEY ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT IT????
THE MEXICO ISSUE- YES IT WAS ILLEGAL FOR HIM TO BOUNTY HUNT THERE .. YES HE GOT IN TROUBLE THERE FOR IT..BUT IF YOU WERE TO TAKE A ROOM AND FILL IT WITH PEOPLE WHO WERENT BEA'S AND ASK WHAT THEY THOUGHT YOU WOULD GET A MIXED BAG OF PEOPLE WHO SAID HE WAS WRONG AND WHO SAID HE WAS RIGHT. SO SAFE TO ASSUME THAT LEGALLY HE WAS WRONG BUT MORALLY HE MAY HAVE BEEN RIGHT DEPENDING ON THE OUT COME OF THE ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE.
ANOTHE5R POINT. I WAS JUST REVIEWING THE POST HERE AND PEOPLE CLAIM TO KNOW THE FACTS HERE AND THAT ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IN MISINFORMED AND AT THE LEAST NOT THEIR EQUAL BUT HAVE SEEN HERE THAT SOMEONE EMAILED A PERSON AND CLAIMED THEY WERE A REPORTER FROM THE NEW YORK POST ... THAT ALLEDGED REPORTED POSTED HERE INFORMING THAT THEY WERENT A REPPORTER WITH THE NEW YORK POST SO IF SOMETHING SO MINOR AS THAT IS OVER LOOKED HOW CAN IT BE TRUSTED THAT ANYTHING MAJOR IS NOT.
JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE DOESNT SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS DOESNT MAKE THEM WRONG DOES IT???? AND IF IT DOES THEN PLEASE POINT ME IN THE DIRECTION OF THE PERSON WHO PLACED YOUR THOUGHTS ON SUCH HIGH PROIRITY PLEASE AND MADE THEM WORD THAT WE ALL MUST FOLLOW.
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rex
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Post subject: I See Posted: Tue 05 Oct 2004 07:58 |
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Joined: Thu 25 Dec 2003 14:26 Posts: 430 Location: Tracy, California
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Beitso,
Let me first extend to you my appreciation for taking the time to clarify your position in such a way that I found no reason to present contrary argument concerning your opinion on the Chapmans.
I'm on forum record stating that I may not agree with his methods,but, nevertheless, Mr. Chapman has grown on me to the extent that his move to nab Luster was gutsy albeit ill-advised; moreover, I can find no reason to personally dislike the man, and I wish him continued success.
As for Mr. Chapman's badge, I'm unclear if it bears an official Colorado seal; thus, I'm dubious that anything can be done over a novelty item. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Mr. Chapman's badge bears his name, which is unique to the trade in my experiences.
Frankly, I can find no justification for making the marriage of the Chapmans an issue, and their living arrangements concerns me not.
However, Mr. Chapman is in the national spotlight. His actions in front of the camera must fall within the workings of applicable laws lest a serious incident could adversely impact the BE trade, as I've indicated in other posts.
I don't subscribe to the implied notion that BEAs are ethnocentric, but rather BEAs respect those who have been there and are willing to articulate their findings.
Bearing in mind that "the risk of insult is the price we pay for clarity," your thoughts and ideas are worth exploring so long as they are presented with courtesy and that you are receptive to courtesy.
Beitso, if you present an argument (argument is not meant as a fight but rather an intelligent, well thought out counter-point) soundly and with factual basis, then you will most likely find concurrent opinions on this forum.
Rex
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HGUNNER
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Post subject: DU-DU Posted: Tue 05 Oct 2004 08:55 |
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HERE WE GO AGAIN
LIST OF WHAT I DO NOT GIVE A RATS BUTT ABOUT
BETH BARMORE CHAPMAN SMITH-I DO NOT CARE WHAT HER NAME IS OR IF THEY ARE MARRIED OR WHAT HE SHE OR IT WEARS
I DO NOT CARE ABOUT CHARGES BROUGHT IN COLORADO-THESE THINGS HAPPEN IN THE BONDING BUSINESS(I AM SURE NO CRIMINAL INTENT WAS FOUND)
I DO NOT CARE ABOUT HIS CRIMINAL RECORD(AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED HE PAID HIS DEBT AND SHOULD BE REGARDED AS A CITIZEN AGAIN)(MANY OF MY COP FRIENDS WILL DISAGREE BUT IT IS MY OPINION)I HAVE MANY EX CON FRIENDS THAT I TRUST MORE THAN JOE CITIZEN.IT IS MY BELIEF WHEN YOU HAVE PAID YOUR DEBT TO SOCIETY ALL YOUR RIGHTS SHOULD BE RESTORED BECAUSE IT IS WHAT YOU DO FROM TODAY ON NOT YESTERDAY THAT IS IMPORTANT IN MY HUMBLE OPINION
I DO NOT CARE ABOUT HIS BIKER PAST IF IN FACT HE WAS ONE-AGAIN I KNOW MANY ANGELS- DEVILS-DIABLOS ETC. THAT HAVE A STRONGER CODE OF RIGHT AND WRONG THAN MOST PEOPLE AND PRACTICE WHAT THEY PREACH-SOME OF THEM HAVE GAINED MY RESPECT(NO EASY THING)
WHAT I DO CARE ABOUT
DU-DU BROKE BOTH U.S. LAW AND MEXICAN LAW BY GOING AFTER LUSTER PERIOD
HE THAN HAD THE UNMITIGATED GALL TO TRY TO COLLECT MONEY FROM THE BAIL KNOWING HE HAD NEITHER AUTHORITY OF ARREST FROM A BONDSMEN AND THAT HE WAS PRECLUDED AS ACTING AS A BEA IN THE STATE OF CAL BECAUSE OF HIS LACK OF LICENSE PERIOD NO GRAY AREA ONLY BLACK AND WHITE
DU-DU USES A BADGE WITH A COLORADO SEAL IN THE MIDDLE(I HAVE IT ENLARGED BY ANOTHER BEA WHO I TRUST AND IT HAS BEEN FOWARED TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF COLORADO WHO HAS ASSURED THE BEA THAT STEPS WERE BEING TAKEN TO REMADY THE SITUATION
DU-DU SAID ON NATIONAL TV "WE ARE LAW ENFORCEMENT"I PERSONALLY EMAILED THE HAWAII AG OFFICE AND WAS TOLD THEY ARE LOOKING INTO THAT.
IN MY OPINION THAT IS CRIMINAL IMPERSONATION OF A POLICE OFFICER
I HAVE PERSONALLY WATCHED TV WHILE DU-DU CHOKED A HANDCUFFED SKIP(THE SKIP WAS CLEARLY RED FACED)WHILE THROUGHING HIM TO DU-DU SON
AGAIN I BELIEVE EXCESSIVE FORCE WAS USED
I BELIEVE THIS SHOWS A INGRAINED DISRESPECT FOR PROPER PROCEDURE AND THE LAW(ONLY MY OPINION)
ALL OF THIS COMBINED CAUSES LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE SKEPTICS OF OUR PROFFESSION-AGAIN MAKING AN ALREADY JOB HARDER AND MAKING BEA MORE ENEMIES IN THE LEGAL COMMUNITY AND GOVERMENT
NOW ABOUT THE GREAT STATE OF VT-I HUNT THERE ALL THE TIME-VT IS KNOWN BY THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT AS ONE OF THE BEST PLACES TO HIDE OUT I THE EAST(ITS BEEN THAT WAY FOR YEARS)
REASONS
LOW OR NON EXSISTANT POLICE PRESENSE ( MANY TOWNS HAVE NO PD AT ALL AND SP HAVE HUNDREDS OF SQUARE MILES TO COVER WITH AS FEW AS 2 TROOPERS PER SHIFT)PER BARRACKS
I HAVE HAD PDS TELL ME THEY ARE ARFRAID OF THE SKIP WE ARE LOOKING FOR SO THEY CANNOT HELP(THAT WAS IN FRONT OF OTHER BEAS
I ALSO HAVE HAD TOWNSPEOPLE TELL ME WE WERE THE CLOSEST THING TO LEO THEY HAVE SEEN IN YEARS.
MANY PROBLEMS ARE HANDLED IN HOUSE-YOU STEAL FROM ME I FIND YOU AND GET MY PROPERTY BACK(I DO NOT SAY THAT IS A BAD THING)-MANY CRIMES ARE HANDLED THAT WAY-BURLARIES -ROBBERIES ETC.MANY MANY MORE JUST GO UNREPORTED.
VT IS CLOSE TO THE NYC BOSTON CORRIDOR SO IT IS EASY TO GET THERE AND HIDE.
THIS POST IS MADE UP OF BOTH FACT AND MY OPINION.OPINION IS MY INTERPITION OF THE FACTS I HAVE GATHERED AND MY EDUCATUON
BBS CRIMINAL JUSTICE 16 YEARS AS A STREET COP(NOT A DESK WARRIOR)OVER 1500 ARRESTS(BOTH AS A COP AND BEA)AND YES I CAN VERIFY THEM
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Post subject: Posted: Tue 05 Oct 2004 11:33 |
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As concerns Vermont... I have worked the Vermont area in excess of twenty years. In fact, there are only two bail agencies for the state and I've been with one of them since day number one.
When I went to the Virgin Isles to capture Water Biggs, it took me FIVE WEEKS to have him entered NCIC. I had to literally explain (several times) to the office of the prosecutor how to effect an NCIC entry. Then I had to explain I need the extradition limits to include the Caribbean basin. When I returned from the Virgin Isles after Mr. Biggs was captured and held by the US Marshals in St. Thomas, I learned that the prosecutor didn't remember what limits I requested for extradition and just made it "world wide". I had to laugh at that one... I never had a case where the extradition limit was world wide. Then I learned that Chittenden County (the most populated county in Vermont) only has a budget of $2,000 per year for extraditions and that most cases aren't even entered NCIC. They are kept at 'Vermont Only'; this includes even the more serious crimes of rape and robbery. The bail agency paid for the extradition of Walter Biggs because that was the only way the prosecutor would have him entered NCIC.
A little known fact... felons are allowed to have black powder guns in the State of Vermont. I realize such a thing runs afoul of federal law but there is not a law enforcement agency there that enforces felons not being allowed to possess a firearm. On a case we had (I'll give the bad guy's name... Brian McSweeney) in Burlington both the police and McSweeney's probation officer knew about the black powder firarms in McSweeney's possession but told us there was nothing they could do about it. We were told that a lot of felons in Vermont have black powder 50 calibre firearms.
Most towns in Vermont do not have any law enforcement officers. They might have a town constable who is usually one of the local merchants or a volunteer fire fighter or even a farmer. They have no law enforcement training and rely on the State Police. Their main function is to take a report and call the State Police. One State Police officer might have to cover 200 or 300 hundred square miles and cannot be immediately present when called. In fact, if his or her presence is required to investigate a crime, it could be one to two days before s/he can get to the matter. This is a similar situation to the State of Alaska.
Another recent situation was when we found a bad guy in Maine who jumped bail in Brattleboro, Vermont. Even after nearly three weeks, the Vermont court still had not entered the warrant even in their own state but they sure didn't waste any time sending the bondsman a forfeiture notice for payment.
The case HGUNNER referenced was when we approached a police sergeant in a Vermont town. The sergeant said he wanted no part of that 'crew' (reference to the bad guy and his family) and wished us luck.
These are but a few examples of what we face when working a Vermont case. Vermont is definitely a criminal's hideout haven.
_________________ Lance Allen Wilkinson
Recoveries by L.A.W.
Serving since 1984
“What is sought is found... what is overlooked escapes” (Oedipus Rex)
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beitso
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Post subject: Posted: Tue 05 Oct 2004 22:55 |
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First here is your is some info for you... Dog will be in msn celeb chat on the 7th http://chat.msn.com/msnlive_feature.msnw?id=msnlivehome
Now I will not go back into the chapman points but still I havent been answered on the Vermont thing. My question was and I will print it big so hgunner doesnt miss it WHAT WAS YOUR POINT IN MENTIONING,BRAGGING OR WHAT EVER YOU WERE DOING, VERMONT WHEN NO ONE HAD MENTIONED IT AT ALL? STILL I AM NOT IMPRESSED.
Law as far as you mentioned Vermont just because you are a few minutes/Hours what have you, from springfield vermont doesnt make you an expert and from the people i have talked to you arent as well known here as you would think or would like others to think.... now hgunner you made a point about jumpers wanting to hide here because its so issolated.. wrong again.. that would be why they wouldnt because in small towns everyone sees everything and they would be spotted right off. I really dont need a lecture about the state i have lived in and worked in all of my life from two people that may have gotten a couple jumpers so now they think they are the authorities on the state.
I know how the law works here I dont need your guess work. you come into my state a few times and think you know all there is to know.. But you do not.. so again I ask hgunner "WHAT WAS YOUR POINT BRINGING VERMONT STATE UP IN THE FIRST PLACE.. AND YES REREAD YOU DID FOR NO REASON BRING IT UP!"
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beitso
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Post subject: Posted: Tue 05 Oct 2004 23:05 |
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oh law i forget to ask.. The Bennington county sherriffs dept and the Rutland county sherriffs want to know where on earth you got your information as far as black powder goes it isnt as easy to find here as you think and felons have to apply to use it for hunting . That doesnt mean that some dont slip through its the same any where but when caught they do get in trouble if they do not have their hunting permit.. and the only other weapon they are allowed is bow and arrow also for hunting.
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L.A.W.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed 06 Oct 2004 00:16 |
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Not only was I born in and have worked the State of Vermont for over 20 years , I have brought in far more than a "couple of jumpers"; try something like perhaps around 150 with a grant total (as of last Monday) of 1,267.
As for the Bennington County Sheriffs Dept. and the Rutland County Sheriffs wanting to know where I got my information... firstly, I don't believe you know anyone at either place; secondly, I've worked both areas and find them not to be any difference in the other counties; thirdly, I "got my information" from working the state down through the years.
I don't care whether or not felons have to apply for a hunting license to use the black powder or not. The fact remains any felon in possession of a fireqarm is against federal law. Hunting has not a thing to do with the matter. Also, in any other state not only is it illegal for felons to have a firearm it is also illegal for a felon to have a bow and arrow... both are considered deadly weapons. So none "slip through", as you suggested because they do NOT get into trouble if they don't have a hunting permit.
I never made even one mention of being an expert or an authority regarding Vermont, as you so inappropriately posted. I wrote what I know to be true based on all I've personally experienced. Please do not put down matters that are not valid about what I 'think' or 'say' merely to confuse the issue or to sway any readers from my intentions.
I don't know what your problem is, sir or madam, but I am not going to get into one of those Internet spats with you. I am known nationwide and do not have to prove myself to you.
Stay safe and have a quality day.
_________________ Lance Allen Wilkinson
Recoveries by L.A.W.
Serving since 1984
“What is sought is found... what is overlooked escapes” (Oedipus Rex)
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HGUNNER
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Post subject: AGAIN AND AGAIN Posted: Wed 06 Oct 2004 13:50 |
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AGAIN I WILL SAY IT SO THE CHEAP SEATS CAN HEAR-
I BELIEVE I SPELLED IT OUT BEFORE -THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT LOVES VT AGAIN FOR THE REASONS YOU JUST MENTIONED-IT IS A SMALL TOWN STATE GIVEN BUT A FEW EXCEPTIONS--MANY HUNTING LODGES SUMMER HOMES, WINTER HOMES , TRANSIENT FAMILY HOMES-THE NATIVES KNOW THE NATIVES AND DO NOT MIX MUCH WITH THE OUTSIDERS SO IF AN OUTSIDER WENT TO A CAMP OR TRANSIENT AREA HE OR SHE IS JUST THAT ANOTHER FLATLANDER-LIMITED LAW ENFORCEMENT MEANS LIMITED RISK-IF THE SKIP KEEPS HIS NOSE CLEAN IN VT HIS CHANCES OF HIDING OUT SUCCESSFULLY ARE VERY GOOD-AS FOR SHERIFFS DEPT I HAVE NOT WORKED WITH THEM BECAUSE MOST SKIPS ARE RETURNED TO THE SP OR LOCAL JURISDICTIONS IE BURLINGTON, BRATTLEBORO, WINDSOR, NEWPORT ETC. IF I BRING A SKIP FROM ANOTHER STATE I ARRANGE FOR A TROOPER TO MEET ME AT THE STATE LINE SO AS TO LIMIT MY DRIVE TIME AND EXPENSE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT I PICK UP SKIPS IN VT AND RETURN THEM TO OTHER STATES-AGAIN LIMITED PD CONTACT UNLESS NEEDED- AS IN MY FORMER POST WHAT WAS SAID BY A LEO TO LAW MYSELF AND OTHER BEA WAS SAID-AS FOR BLACK BOWDER ARMS-MANY POLICE AGENCIES HAVE TOLD BOTH LAW AND MYSELF THE SAME THING -IT IS VERY COMMON FOR FELONS TO HAVE BOTH BLACK POWDER RIFLES AND PISTOLS AND IT DOES CONCERN THEM-FEDERAL LAW PROHIBITS FELONS FROM POSESSION OF FIREARMS PERIOD(THE DEFINITION OF A FIREARM IS ANY OBJECT THAT USES A PROPELLANT CHARGE TO PROPEL A PROJECTILE DOWNRANGE)IE COMPRESSED AIR GUN- BLACK POWDER GUN-CANNON ETC.
WHY DID I BRING UP VT SAME REASON I BROUGHT UP NY CAL FL KS KY MIS MA ME RI TENN GA NH NJ ETC. I HAVE WORKED ALL THOSE STATES AND MORE AND HAVE EITHER BROUGHT PEOPLE FROM THEM BACK TO NEW ENGLAND OR HAVE RETURNED SKIPS TO THOSE STATES OR BOTH.PLUS IT TENDS TO GIVE AN EQUAL FRAME OF REFERENCE-AS FOR BEING WELL KNOWN-I DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF CONTACT WITH SMALL TOWN LEO UNLESS I WORK WITH THEM-ALSO WITH A STATE AS CLOSE KNIT AS YOURS SOMETIMES IT IS NOT TO HEALTHY TO CONTACT LEO UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE(MANY TIMES IN SMALL STATES THE SKIP IS A CLOSE RELITIVE OR FRIEND OF THE LOCAL LEO)I FIND AMAZING HOW THE FACT THAT THE BEAS ARE AFTER SOMEONE WHEN ONLY THE LOCAL LEO KNOWS ABOUT US(I HAVE FOUND HANDWRITTEN NOTES ON SKIPS WITH MY DESCRIBTION, MY VEHICLE DISCRIBTION, AND THE DATE I AM GOING TO BE IN TOWN-THAT HAS HAPPENED IN A FEW STATES SO I AM NOT SAYING IT IS JUST VT.
NOW FOR BRAGGING RIGHTS-IF I WANTED TO BRAG I WOULD RELATE TO YOU OF THE MORE THAN 1500 ARRESTS I HAVE MADE BOTH AS A COP AND BEA-THEY CONSISTED OF MURDERS , RAPISTS , KIDNAPPERS , CHILD MOLESTERS , ROBBERS, PIMPS , HOOKERS , DRUG PUSHERS , DRUG ADDICTS , DRUNK DRIVERS ETC AND LIST GOES ON.MOST BEAS AND OR COPS WITH TIME IN HAVE DONE THE SAME IF THEY WERE NEAR A LARGE METRO AREA.I HAVE BEEN SHOT AT AND I HAVE TAKEN HUMAN LIFE 6 TIMES-AGAIN NOT A BRAG JUST A FACT THAT I AM NOT PROUD OF BUT PART OF MY CAREER.
I HAVE ARRESTED APPROX 80 LAWYERS A FEW JUDGES SOME BAD COPS, MECHANICS,HOME MAKERS,POLITICIANS(SAME AS LAWYERS IN MY BOOK)DOCTORS, CANDLE STICK MAKERS, BAKERS AND SO ON AND SO ON THE LIST CONTINUES AGAIN NO BRAG JUST THE FACTS AGAIN ANY PRO BEA AND OR COP COULD HAVE DONE THE SAME-ALL OF THIS IS WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE-AGAIN THE POINT IS OUTLINED IN MY PAST POSTS DU-DU IS OUT OF CONTROL AND A DETRIMENT TO PRO BEA EVERYWHERE AND EVEN WORSE HE PROVES THAT JUST ABOUT EVERY TIME HIS SHOW AIRS-ON THIS WEEKS SHOW HE LEFT HIS SON LELAND TO ESCAPE AN ANGRY MOB WHILE DU-DU STAYED BEHIND HIS CAR.AGAIN PLAIN AS DAY MAYBE IT WAS POOR EDITING BUT THAT IS HOW IT CAME ACROSS-VERY POOR TACTICAL CONTROL-
BY THE WAY I DO ENJOY OUR LITTLE CHATS-ALSO THERE IS A SAYING I USE ALOT- DO NOT BRING A KNIFE TO A GUNFIGHT- ANYTIME FEEL FREE TO CALL-THIS IS A DELIGHTFUL WAY TO WORK OUT MY GUN HAND
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