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Author:  SURETYRISKMANAGEMENT [ Wed 21 May 2014 10:38 ]
Post subject:  Report: NJ bail problems may have led to mall slaying

http://www.app.com/story/news/local/new ... s/2312826/

Author:  speezack [ Thu 22 May 2014 07:07 ]
Post subject:  Re: Report: NJ bail problems may have led to mall slaying

something was wrong with the display on this so I deleted it and will repost... to see if that fixes the problem

Author:  speezack [ Thu 22 May 2014 07:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: Report: NJ bail problems may have led to mall slaying

Ok... not sure what that was all about.. but looks ok now......................................

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bail set at $50,000 — was freed after posting $200 and promising to pay more.<<>>he posted just 1 percent of the total bail, plus a $30 fee, and agreed to pay another 18 installments of $100 each.<<>>he report does not specifically criticize Aaron Bail Bonds, just the common practice in the state of discounting bail-bond deals.<<>>"runners" inside county jails — inmates who work as touts for bail bond companies in exchange for money — bail discounts and three-way calls that the bail bondsman sets up to other numbers.


Ongoing problem across the country.... I welcome reform that would make all bondsmen, in every state, by law, collect the full amount of the premium due in that state.... outlaw financing!!! Yes, I said it... outlaw financing and discounting... this policy is actually implemented in other forms of insurance, why not this industry... no rebates, no discounts, no financing... put all of us on the same page!!!!... But... that probably ain't happening simply because the regulatory agencies... for whatever reasons, do not enforce the laws that are in place now... DCJS in Virginia for one and others in their respective states...

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Nicholas Wachinski, executive director of the American Bail Coalition, a Pennsylvania-based nonprofit trade group that represents the surety bail industry and advises courts and others on bail practices, said he welcomes the report.


Anyone that was at the NABBI conference in Philadelphia back in 2012, should remember Mr. Wachinski, who at the time was the legal council for Bail USA/Seneca. I am not sure of his connections at this point to this surety. He attended our meeting and gave a talk on the situation in our industry.

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Now, defendants can pay as little as 1 percent of the full bail as a down payment — sometimes nothing — and agree to make up the difference between the down payment and 10 percent of the full amount of the bail through periodic payments.


Again, and how many times do we have to throw this out for it to be seen and acted upon by those in the regulatory capacity???

How can those of us that try to do this job in an ethical and professional manner compete with this practice....

Author:  SURETYRISKMANAGEMENT [ Thu 22 May 2014 07:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: Report: NJ bail problems may have led to mall slaying

I believe that if the legislators modified existing statutes in order to eliminate the practice of collecting premiums on payment plans and that if the regulatory authorities strictly and consistently enforced the statutes, then it would probably serve to level the playing field within the competitive bail bond industry. Some folks might not be able to afford to pay the premiums on high bond amounts, but bail agents simply do not possess the right, responsibility or the authority to set bail amounts. That function belongs solely to the courts. It is nice to possess the privilege to be able to allow some of our select clients to make premium payments on a reasonable, short-term basis. Bail agents may have to forfeit that privilege in an effort to further clean up our industry. I have never been a fan of losing privileges; however, it may be necessary in order to effectively eliminate some of the bad characters from our trade.

Author:  SURETYRISKMANAGEMENT [ Thu 22 May 2014 08:32 ]
Post subject:  Re: Report: NJ bail problems may have led to mall slaying

'Unscrupulous' practices in NJ bail industry let dangerous offenders go free, report says
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2014/0 ... ebook-like

Author:  SURETYRISKMANAGEMENT [ Thu 22 May 2014 09:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: Report: NJ bail problems may have led to mall slaying

Report urges changes in N.J. bail-bond industry
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local ... ustry.html

Author:  tsuggs [ Thu 22 May 2014 10:03 ]
Post subject:  Re: Report: NJ bail problems may have led to mall slaying

Jason,

In CA we have a problem with being regulated by the department of insurance. Most other states are the same. So, because we are "selling" an insurance product, bail is treated like all other insurance products and allow financing or periodic payments.

Now, everyone agrees bail is un like all other lines of insurance and should be regulated differently but, no legislator will do anything about it.

Next is the issue of bail amounts. Pre Trail Services blame bail agents for not bonding out people with no money and therefore creating over crowded jails. Well, if many agents are financing and taking zero down, one would think that almost everyone would be able to make bail.

Then the New jersey story hits and another part of the CJS complains about bail agents posting bonds with very little or no money down. So, which is it? Finance bail to keep the jails empty or don't allow financing to prevent dangerous criminals from getting out of jail too easily.

Again I think the final "solution" will be elimination of private surety bail. Because we all know the government can do it better than we can.

Scott can chime in about what is going on in Maryland. Also, there is a small but growing push in California, originating in San Francisco to expand PTRS and eliminate bail.

Look, there has been a Bill in Sacramento for the last 2 years that states," a defendant release on O.R. will be the presumed form of pre trail release, unless public safety is an issue."

In other words let everyone out on O.R. unless they are a child molester or murderer. No bail needed. Sooner or later that Bill will pass into law.

Author:  SURETYRISKMANAGEMENT [ Thu 22 May 2014 10:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: Report: NJ bail problems may have led to mall slaying

Well, that isn't good at all!

Author:  speezack [ Thu 22 May 2014 14:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Report: NJ bail problems may have led to mall slaying

I have deleted this post.... just voicing my frustration and I figured no one would want to read it so it is gone.............. 8)

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