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| Author: | Yak [ Thu 28 Mar 2013 05:59 ] |
| Post subject: | Holy Moly .... |
http://www.aol.com/video/female-bounty- ... d%3D290227 I'm not going to comment on this now but I will say NOT to effective. |
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| Author: | tsuggs [ Thu 28 Mar 2013 09:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Holy Moly .... |
I have heard rumors that they are in financial trouble because of writing bad bonds resulting in plenty of skips. |
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| Author: | Yak [ Thu 28 Mar 2013 11:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Holy Moly .... |
I can certainly understand the plenty of skips part Tony. Not to stereotype here but these ladies simply DON'T have the muscle to get the job done on their own . |
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| Author: | OrangeCountyBounty [ Thu 28 Mar 2013 13:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Holy Moly .... |
No, they don't. My team and I scrutinized this mishap piece-by-piece, after getting up off the floor and catching our breath from laughing, and found it to be a textbook "what not to do". One of the comments below it on the YouTube page even said, "I didn't think it was possible to make Dog look good." |
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| Author: | Joe Stiles [ Thu 28 Mar 2013 18:59 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Holy Moly .... |
Two ex-cops and an ex-corrections officer and none of them can demonstrate any ability of a basic takedown move? Here's some advice... We've all probably tricked someone into meeting us and then took them down, but one thing we should all be aware of. When you execute a ruse of this nature, the likelihood that the person will feel justified in resisting increases because they have the self righteous feeling that you have been deceitful. I am not opposed to this practice. I am just saying that you should expect a greater level of resistance. |
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| Author: | Reinere [ Thu 28 Mar 2013 19:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Holy Moly .... |
I'm not even sure how to respond to this video. The girls at Lipstick definately could use proper training. |
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| Author: | Charlie Deckert [ Fri 29 Mar 2013 08:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Holy Moly .... |
This is what happens when you are untrained and unprofessional. They could have just as easily sat down and explained to the guy calmly. "Hey listen we asked you here because your bond is revoked and we need to go down to the jail. You can be bailed back out but there is a warrant. Do you need to call anyone before we go?". Or have law enforcement come and effect the arrest. These are NOT Bounty Hunters...I am slightly offended that they are portrayed as such. Ridicules |
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| Author: | tsuggs [ Fri 29 Mar 2013 09:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Holy Moly .... |
Ok, A little background. I followed stories about them from day one. Their whole MO is that they have pink Hummers, pink cuffs, pink everyone thing. They tried to sex up their operation to get people in the door. They played upped their law enforcement background when going after skips. They were featured several times on local tv. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKNszECtAs4 Also, they were involved in a precident setting conceal carry court case back in 2001, Davis W. Golt v City of Signal Hill, No. 00-6956 CM In that case one of their brothers was pulled over for driving a vehicle that had no license plates. They were on the way to do a bail fugitive pickup. He was carrying a loaded 9mm on him. He claimed to be lawfully carrying as he was a bail agent on the way to pick up a skip. Lisa Golt at the time was an off duty LA PD officer. She was with them and told the local cops he was authorized to carry. Long story short he was arrested and convicted and the US District Court upheld the conviction. Anyway, I will not say that they are shady or doing anything illegal or unethical. But I will say that I think they over estimated they abilities and knowledge of bail in general and recovery in particular. |
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| Author: | OrangeCountyBounty [ Fri 29 Mar 2013 12:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Holy Moly .... |
You don't have to say it, Tony. Their inability to properly conduct themselves is evident on the street. What is even worse, what I said about Shawn Weaver awhile back applies here tenfold. It is one thing to make the occasional mistake on the job, even the occasional whopper! But why, OH WHY, would THAT be the one you film and place on YouTube????? Some where between "your an idiot" and "that's what makes good TV", lies the answer. |
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| Author: | tsuggs [ Fri 29 Mar 2013 13:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Holy Moly .... |
A little info on the Golt twins: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 Twin Police Officers Charged With Illegal Computer Use Crime: Teresa Golt and her sister Lisa, who was fired in 1999, also are accused of violating law on bail bonds. By JEFFREY L. RABIN, LA Times Staff Writer Twin sisters Lisa and Teresa Golt--a former and a present LAPD officer who have been outspoken critics of the department and subjects of internal discipline--are in even deeper trouble. The 33-year-old sisters face felony charges that they issued bail without a license and illegally accessed confidential information from law enforcement computers. They were arrested last month on suspicion of acting without a bail-bond license and accessing the computers and making use of the data. Both pleaded not guilty to the felony charges at their arraignment and are free on their own recognizance. A Los Angeles Superior Court judge Tuesday said he would not set a preliminary hearing date for the sisters until mid-January because their defense attorneys are involved in other trials and will not be available. Lisa Golt won widespread attention in January 1999 when she spearheaded a campaign to encourage other LAPD officers to sign written instructions to bar Police Chief Bernard C. Parks from attending their funeral if they were killed in the line of duty. "I don't want somebody I don't respect at my funeral," Lisa Golt said at the time. Parks "has no feelings whatsoever for the officers. He only goes for political reasons." Teresa Golt also was sharply critical of what she and some other officers viewed as Parks' heavy-handed approach to discipline. She was later disciplined for her role in the anti-Parks campaign. "Police facilities are not open forums for expressing our unhappiness or lack of support for our upper levels of management," Lt. Gloria Vargas wrote in a report called an employee comment sheet, one of the mildest forms of LAPD discipline. "In the future, if you wish to express your disapproval of the Los Angeles Police Department, do it on your own time and not on or in department facilities." LAPD spokesman Lt. Horace Frank said Tuesday that the Golt sisters' effort to enlist other officers in the anti-Parks campaign was "unfortunate and sad" and did not reflect "the feeling of 99.9% of the police officers of this department." Frank confirmed that Teresa Golt has been reassigned to an administrative position while awaiting a disciplinary hearing on 10 internal charges filed with the Police Commission in July. Those allegations include working off duty as a bail bondsman, inappropriately acting as a bail agent without a proper license, making false and misleading statements to department supervisors and using department computer systems for personal use. Lisa Golt was fired by the department in October 1999 after being found guilty of three charges in an internal LAPD disciplinary proceeding, Frank said. Those allegations included being involved in the bail bond business while off duty, spraying someone with pepper spray while off duty, and failing to notify the department of use of force. She is appealing the dismissal, said attorney John Barnett. The Golt sisters also have been disciplined for other offenses, according to LAPD records. The criminal complaint filed against them last month alleges that they engaged in the crime of "undertaking bail without a license" in July 1999 and January 2000. In addition, they were charged with four counts of accessing, taking, copying and making use of information from LAPD and California Department of Justice computer systems on four occasions between January and May of 1999. Deputy Dist. Atty. Elizabeth Munisoglu said the charges were filed as felonies rather than misdemeanors because the sisters "used their position as police officers for private gain" by engaging in the bail bond business and accessing law enforcement computers. "Given the totality, it seemed to us a felony filing was more appropriate," she said. Orange County defense attorney Salavatore Ciulla, who represents Lisa Golt, said both sisters entered not guilty pleas. "They have denied all of these allegations," he said. Ciulla said he intends to explore whether there has been retaliation and discriminatory prosecution against the two. "I feel that is part and parcel of their prosecution. I don't know yet what the documentation will show," he said. "I'm interested in how the district attorney files and prosecutes these cases." Barnett questioned the severity of the actions taken by the LAPD against the two sisters. "The problem with this case is it simply doesn't pass the smell test," he said. "Two outspoken female LAPD officers are quoted and are very active in the internal politics of the department and they get singled out. Why? We're going to seek to find out." In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. Wll follow up with outcome of cases once I find it in my many files of bail related stuff. |
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