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| Author: | Phill Cross [ Tue 24 May 2011 12:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Jacksonville officer shoots, kills bail bondsman |
A bail bondsman is dead and another is in critical condition following a shooting at a Jacksonville apartment complex. Jacksonville County Sheriff's officials say the bondsmen called for law enforcement assistance... http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/st ... l-bondsman |
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| Author: | NYPD BLUE [ Tue 24 May 2011 12:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jacksonville officer shoots, kills bail bondsman |
The Bail Bond company was " No Problem Bail Bonds " One of the Bail Agent owner / company I write for here in Miami, his son who is also a Bail Bondsman was on the 1st team that went to this house but his wife was in Labor and about to give birth and left for the hospital and the remaining team members went back at 2 am to try and catch the guy and then all hell broke loose.. Sad Situation ... The reason the guys had masks on was because a couple of the Agents live in this bad area neighborhood and did not want local residents knowing that they are Agents.. The only thing that maybe these agents shouldve have done was call back to the Station House to inform them that they are returning to that location as the Officers were on Scene the First time with the Bail Agents during the 4 to Midnight Shift.. and left .. but guess the Tour Change for the midnight shift did not have any knowledge of the Agents operating in the area earlier that evening .. |
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| Author: | tsuggs [ Tue 24 May 2011 13:20 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jacksonville officer shoots, kills bail bondsman |
Did they have any identifying names on the clothes such as bail agent, fugitive recovery, etc? |
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| Author: | HKguru [ Tue 24 May 2011 14:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jacksonville officer shoots, kills bail bondsman |
tsuggs wrote: Did they have any identifying names on the clothes such as bail agent, fugitive recovery, etc? Yea I had same question. And what kind of masks? |
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| Author: | KARMA [ Tue 24 May 2011 15:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jacksonville officer shoots, kills bail bondsman |
HKguru wrote: tsuggs wrote: Did they have any identifying names on the clothes such as bail agent, fugitive recovery, etc? Yea I had same question. And what kind of masks? ALWAYS ALWAYS check in ! Just because they checked in the morning does not justify their actions in the wee hours of the next morning. This is the crap that makes us ALL look bad. Not a good excuse for the wearing of the masks. If they live in the neighborhood folks already know what they do . . . sheesh ! They have now lost a life and made the Bail Industry look even worse. |
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| Author: | AWOBB [ Tue 24 May 2011 17:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jacksonville officer shoots, kills bail bondsman |
LuVonda wrote: HKguru wrote: tsuggs wrote: Did they have any identifying names on the clothes such as bail agent, fugitive recovery, etc? Yea I had same question. And what kind of masks? ALWAYS ALWAYS check in ! Just because they checked in the morning does not justify their actions in the wee hours of the next morning. This is the crap that makes us ALL look bad. Not a good excuse for the wearing of the masks. If they live in the neighborhood folks already know what they do . . . sheesh ! They have now lost a life and made the Bail Industry look even worse. I agree with you LuVonda.... So far it's been a sad week on shooting agents an so on...... So everyone watch your 6. |
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| Author: | MadMadi [ Tue 24 May 2011 18:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jacksonville officer shoots, kills bail bondsman |
WHAT in the world?! Wearing MASKS?! Not notifying LE #1 that your leaving and #2 that your back... I'm sorry, but they were careless and yes, makes us all look BAD! If you work where you live and feel you have to wear a mask to protect yourself, then MOVE or WORK another area... Ridiculously sad and unnecessary loss of life... |
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| Author: | NYPD BLUE [ Tue 24 May 2011 19:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jacksonville officer shoots, kills bail bondsman |
The info available has not been elaborated on yet .. I do not know what type of IDENTIFYING Gear such as "AGENT" or "SURETY AGENT" etc.. they were wearing at the time of the incident.. I know very few if any Agents here in FL that wear these "Hood - Masks" that you see Narcotics Officers Wearing .. Yes it was sloppy for these Agents to not call AGAIN and let the Station know that they were returning for a secondary hit on the location .. When I find out more info I will be sure to pass it along to everyone.. most likely will know more tomorrow unless I have to run to the jail during the night to post a bond.. I spoke with another Agent based out of Miami and he is in contact with the guys up there and I believe the Agents were fairly new in the bail bond world but I have not confirmed this yet .. just a rumor I heard.. will get the facts tomorrow.. and post more.... |
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| Author: | MarshallSvc [ Tue 24 May 2011 22:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jacksonville officer shoots, kills bail bondsman |
They are called Balaclava's. Still, they should have had some very clear identifiable clothing on. Sad sad situation. |
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| Author: | NYPD BLUE [ Wed 25 May 2011 00:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jacksonville officer shoots, kills bail bondsman |
Just got back from Dade Jail .. and spoke with a bondsman who knew and worked with the Agent that was Killed. It is still unknown and alot of Speculation as to what these Agents were wearing besides the HOOD/Mask.. Unknown if there were any markings on them *AGENT * etc.. Also the Agent killed was the son of the General Agent for Safety National Ins. I was told that both Agents were shot by the responding Deputy with an AR-15 Assault Rifle that penetrated the vest and killed the agent who was pronounced at the scene..and critically wounded the other agent.. more to follow as I get it .. ******************************************************************************** Two bail bondsmen were shot early Tuesday morning by a police officer responding to a report of an armed home invasion at an apartment complex at 3539 Beach Blvd., according to the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office. JSO Chief John Hartley said one bondsman was shot and killed, and a second who was shot by the officer was in critical condition at Shands Jacksonville Medical Center. A third bondsman was not shot, but taken to Shands for an evaluation. Hartley said officers were called at 1:53 a.m. to the Mayfair Village apartment complex to assist the men in arresting someone for a revoked driver's license and an expired license plate. Police and the bondsmen, who were unarmed at the time, knocked on the door of the person they were hoping to arrest. When no one answered the door, the officers left, Hartley said. He said it turned out people were inside the apartment and the bondsmen did not leave the complex when the officers did. At 2:02 a.m., police got a call from a woman inside the apartment. She told police that armed men dressed in black were outside her apartment and they were trying to kick down her door. Hartley said she stayed on the phone until police arrived. When a new set of officers responded to a call of armed home invasion, they surrounded the building. Police said Officer Jason Bailey saw one man with a mask, gloves, dressed in black and holding a shotgun, and Bailey fired his AR-15 rifle. That man died at the scene. "I wake up and look out my window and see a man with a sawed-off shotgun and a cop standing right here with an AR-15," a neighbor said. Hartley said Bailey came into contact with a second man and fired multiple shots, critically injuring that man. Hartley said at least one of the bondsmen was wearing a mask. Why he was wearing a mask is one of many questions police and the state attorney's office hope to answer during the investigation of this police-involved shooting. Names of the bondsmen and their agencies were not released at the scene. Police will hold a news conference Wednesday. Bailey was placed on paid administrative leave during the investigation. Ann Teague, president of Jacksonville Bail Agent Association and a bail bonds agent since 1975, said she has heard of certain bail bondsmen wearing masks to conceal their identity. Teague said it's procedure for bondsmen to identify themselves as bondsmen and make police aware of what's going on. She said if they think someone is inside a home, they can break the door down to arrest that person. "Normally, (bondsmen are) going to call (police) and say, 'We’re out here to pick up someone,'" Teague said. Teague said that while the charges against the suspect in this case appear to be minor, she said the suspect's entire history must be taken into consideration. Teague said, for instance, that the person could have had a $50,000 bond because of a violent history. It's unclear in this case. Teague said bondsmen often work in the middle of the night and sometimes call police for assistance, as they did in this case. "It's a very bad idea, 2 o'clock in the morning, you're out and about. You're in all black clothing. You've got an assault rifle. That's not what you want to wake up and see," Channel 4 crime analyst Ken Jefferson said. Jefferson said bondsman are state-licensed agents backed by insurers and permitted to pick up criminals. He said he hasn't heard of any problems in the area before. |
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