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Author:  raususken [ Thu 19 Mar 2009 01:58 ]
Post subject:  Question regarding Fugitive Recovery

Normally when speaking of fugitive recovery, it surrounds a person who posted bail and then did not show up to court. My question is regarding those who are listed as an absconder from probation/parole. Can these people be picked up and returned to the state where they are listed as wanted? I have looked in quite a few places, but can not find anything regarding the "rights" of a fugitive. I have found mention of the writ of habeas corpus, but that doesnt really answer any questions.

Thanks for your time and response.

Author:  kittygrl [ Thu 19 Mar 2009 07:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: Question regarding Fugitive Recovery

Hi raususken !!
Welcome.... run a search within this forum on a member named "Steve Faircloth" or simply search the words "absconder",both should help answer your questions.

Goodluck :D

Author:  SpanielPI [ Thu 19 Mar 2009 07:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Question regarding Fugitive Recovery

If a person is a fugitive from justice, and has warrants out for thier arrest, then naturally, yes, they can be re-apprehended by any law enforcement officer who encounters them.

The only time BEA's have arrest powers is when they have been contracted by the bail bondsman to effect that arrest, vicariously through thier authority in writing.

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Basically what you are asking is can a citizen effect a re-apprehension on another person who may or may not be wanted for a parole or probation violation ? The answer is a double edged sword.

Technically and generally speaking (each jurisdiction is different), the principle of citizens arrest exists through various laws, whether they be local, state or federal. However, as a citizen, you are opening yourself up to all kinds of lawsuits and liabilities if you attempt a citizen's arrest. The best way to work within the system is to simply notify local LEO's of the location of a wanted fugitive. This is usally done through your local crimestopper's programs.

The above is a personal opinion of mine, is not to be construed as legal advice, and all persons should operate completely within the laws before executing any kind of legal undertakings.

Author:  raususken [ Thu 19 Mar 2009 07:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: Question regarding Fugitive Recovery

Thanks alot for your replies, it cleared up quite a bit of things for me.

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Basically what you are asking is can a citizen effect a re-apprehension on another person who may or may not be wanted for a parole or probation violation ? The answer is a double edged sword.


Yes, the person is wanted in Florida, and Florida will not pay the expensive extradition cost to have him returned. Washington will not force extradition either, again because of cost, but also because he hasn't been charged/convicted with any crimes in Washington as of yet.

My friend and I have been discussing getting started in this field, and figured since we knew where a fugitive was we could get a good start.

Author:  speezack [ Thu 19 Mar 2009 07:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: Question regarding Fugitive Recovery

RWB wrote:
If a person is a fugitive from justice, and has warrants out for thier arrest, then naturally, yes, they can be re-apprehended by any law enforcement officer who encounters them.The only time BEA's have arrest powers is when they have been contracted by the bail bondsman to effect that arrest, vicariously through thier authority in writing.


Ruffin, no matter what they say about you.... you are a wealth of information on our business... I have found you to be factual, informative, generally right on the money and in my short tenure on FRN I have found you to give great answers to complicated questions.... and although you do have some detractors on here... :roll: :roll:

U DA MAN...




please send the check to PO Box 24, Kenbridge, VA... 23944... just make it out to me personally.

Author:  speezack [ Thu 19 Mar 2009 07:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Question regarding Fugitive Recovery

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Yes, the person is wanted in Florida, and Florida will not pay the expensive extradition cost to have him returned.


FLORIDA!!! FLORIDA.... I don't even want to start on that one.... Ruffin... jump in anytime.... :shock: :shock:

Author:  speezack [ Thu 19 Mar 2009 07:49 ]
Post subject:  Re: Question regarding Fugitive Recovery

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My friend and I have been discussing getting started in this field, and figured since we knew where a fugitive was we could get a good start.


Short answer.... kidnapping and crossing a state line with the victim.... would be a very quick beginning and ending to your career.

Author:  SpanielPI [ Thu 19 Mar 2009 08:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Question regarding Fugitive Recovery

lol Bill...your check is in the mail...:)

Re: agreed with what Bill said..kidnapping and crossing.....

Author:  Mdbtyhtr [ Thu 19 Mar 2009 08:51 ]
Post subject:  Re: Question regarding Fugitive Recovery

While you are doing your research on here as well as other places...search UCEA

Scott

Author:  raususken [ Thu 19 Mar 2009 10:37 ]
Post subject:  Re: Question regarding Fugitive Recovery

According to Washington UCEA
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Whenever the governor of this state shall demand a person charged with crime or with escaping from confinement or breaking the terms of his bail, probation or parole in this state, from the executive authority of any other state, or from the appropriate authority of the District of Columbia authorized to receive such demand under the laws of the United States, he shall issue a warrant under the seal of this state, to some agent, commanding him to receive the person so charged if delivered to him and convey him to the proper officer of the county in this state in which the offense was committed.


So, in the case presented, a bondsman would need a warrant signed under the governor of Florida's seal in order to legally re-apprehend said fugitive?

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