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| Author: | hwatts47 [ Fri 09 May 2008 07:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Bail Enforcement vs. Fugitive Recovery |
My opinion is that there is a difference in Bail Enforcement and Fugitive Recovery, now I know they are the same job but I think there is a difference. Bail enforcement, to me, is dealing with actually enforcing the civil contract and terms of that contract; Fugitive Recovery is recovering a defendant that has Failed to Appear in court. These are just my opinions on the matter just wanted to see what you fine people thought in regards to it. Thanks |
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| Author: | SpanielPI [ Fri 09 May 2008 07:35 ] |
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You are correct, in my opinion. Fugitive Recovery is self explanatory....i.e., recovering fugitive's. Bail enforcement is a step up from cuffing and stuffing...this is where you perfect your skills at desktop exonerations, collections, etc..basically accomplishing 2 things: Bringing owed money into the client and mitigating the client's liability via court room pleadings, legal loopholes, etc. Learning how to make your state laws work in favour of your client instead of against him. |
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| Author: | SnoWolf [ Fri 09 May 2008 13:35 ] |
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GA's explaination of the terms fit this reasoning. The law here, states that we are "Bail Recovery" to cover both aspects. The same person can, now, Recovery Fugitves or Enforce Bail without being outside of the job description through a title. I like that the names have been broken down, now. Thanks. |
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| Author: | Mdbtyhtr [ Sat 10 May 2008 08:41 ] |
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Splitting hairs...What ever we call ourselves, somewhere a legislator made it illegal! I prefer Surety Investigator, it carries no connotation of law enforcement, does not refer to "Agent" (although under contract law, that best describes our position and relationship) does not state any national or state affiliation I.E.: US Fugitive Task Force or some others that I have seen, heard and read and simply states who we are and what we do. There are more and more restrictions on this business everyday, that come about as a result of the actions of some hard head who had to prove he had the "Authorit I" (go Cartman) to do what ever he wanted resulting in the ability for a politician to stay in the press another week at the expense of those that endeavor to practice the art of this profession within due bounds. If you try to coach, mentor or lead these individuals and by doing so explain that what they want so desperately to believe will get them in trouble, you ar the "Know it all" and disparaged. We all know that these individuals will not make it in this business long term and leave behind a mess that negatively effects the rest of us, while they move on to screw up somebody else's profession in denial and oblivious to the wake they left behind. Scott |
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| Author: | mark cavendish [ Sat 10 May 2008 14:16 ] |
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If your smart enough to make money at this you have to be a Bail Enforcement Agent. However if your cuffing a tweeker in some dark house somewhere and a couple of his pals show up you better be able to turn into a Bounty Hunter fast enough. Scott while you have respect nationwide, "Surety Investigator" makes it sound like I'm here to give you an estimate on getting some body work done. Yuck. |
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| Author: | KARMA [ Sat 10 May 2008 15:08 ] |
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Like Scott says . . . no matter what we call ourselves . . . |
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| Author: | Mdbtyhtr [ Thu 15 May 2008 14:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bail Enforcement vs. Fugitive Recovery |
Mark where is the car you want me to look at? JC Autobody, "Your Automotive Dent-ist" I couldn't resist. Bottom line it doesn't matter what we are called as long as it does not violate local statute. We all must stay under the radar to keep making money and have a viable industry to do it in. Scott |
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| Author: | hwatts47 [ Fri 16 May 2008 20:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bail Enforcement vs. Fugitive Recovery |
Thanks for all the good replies everyone, very well discussed. To summarize what everyone said, Bail Enforcement and Fugitive Recovery, the job is done by the same person but there is a difference in the two but it doesn't matter what the difference is because odds are that both of them will piss off a politician or police chief somewhere...and Mark wants Scott to give him a quote on auto repair. 
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| Author: | Caz [ Tue 03 Jun 2008 13:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bail Enforcement vs. Fugitive Recovery |
Someone mentioned legislated terminology I believe. In Washington State, the only two officially recognized terms are "Bail Bond Recovery Agent" and "Bail Enforcement Agent". I personally have always used those terms and have stayed away from "Fugitive Recovery" because there are times when we are not dealing with a fugitive, ie bail bond revoke situations in which there is no warrant because the defendant has not absconded and it is strictly a civil matter. I have distanced myself from the "Bounty Hunter" term as well because of it's negative connotations, although of course everybody outside of the industry loves it. As we progress as a professional industry, I think it is very important to be accurate about the terminology we use and the image we create with that terminology. |
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| Author: | KARMA [ Tue 03 Jun 2008 15:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bail Enforcement vs. Fugitive Recovery |
And that my Dear Caz . . . is why I am a "Professional Stalker" . . . what better describes us . . . stalking at its' finest . . . |
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